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Russia and America should unite against Saudi-China alliance
baltimoresun.com ^ | 4/18/2016 | Rachel Marsden

Posted on 04/18/2016 9:22:23 PM PDT by Trumpinator

Edited on 04/19/2016 12:18:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

If there's a single issue on which the U.S. and Russia should urgently cooperate, it's Saudi Arabia.

If the Central Intelligence Agency's role is to discreetly promote the economic and political interests of the United States, then there's one country that ought to be awfully disappointing to the agency right now: Saudi Arabia. In fact, if there's an issue on which America and Russia could potentially agree, it would be the damage Saudi Arabia has recently wrought upon the national and economic security of both nations.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; iran; putinsbuttboys; putinstrollarmy; redchina; rop; russianpropaganda; saudis; worldwar3
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1 posted on 04/18/2016 9:22:23 PM PDT by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator

” If the Central Intelligence Agency’s role is to discreetly promote the economic and political interests of the United States”

That’s a towering “if.” There are agencies already tasked with promoting our interests. The CIA should be gathering intelligence, not propagandizing.


2 posted on 04/18/2016 9:26:47 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Trumpinator

Eventually, US + Russia + China vs islam.


3 posted on 04/18/2016 9:27:46 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Trumpinator

Maybe if we get a leader. And commie Sanders and the humary clinton ain’t it.


4 posted on 04/18/2016 9:28:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: sparklite2

The CIA shouldn’t exist at all, it’s inherently incompatible with representative government.


5 posted on 04/18/2016 9:34:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Trumpinator

Any such move would need to reviewed by Jammy Hussein Obama.


6 posted on 04/18/2016 9:36:45 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: thoughtomator

What does gathering foreign intelligence have to do with representative government?


7 posted on 04/18/2016 9:43:56 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sparklite2

if that’s what they actually did then it wouldn’t be an issue


8 posted on 04/18/2016 9:48:38 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Vince Ferrer
Eventually, US + Russia + China vs islam.

nope

Russia+China+Islam versus US.

Russia is playing the long game. Please remember that they're communist. China is communist...our POTUS is a communist.

Islam is a tool to demoralize our armed forces, drain our treasury and our universities are educating 3 generation of leaders that hate our country.

Russia is fighting like all eastern countries fight....they attack, withdraw and make you react... repeat and rinse. Only in the west do we just line up and fight.

It's an ideological war for the world. It's never stopped since the first world war and in 1000 years the years from 1912 to whenever are going to be seen as one continuous ideological war between the individual and the state.

I'll be dead and even my kids might be gone but there is still at least one more world wide war in our future. It's always when we are weak that other countries mistake that for cowardice as opposed to not wanting war.

Peace is an aberration in the human condition, war is our natural state. Tell your sons that he may not be interested in war but war will be interested in him....(quote stolen from a smart person).

9 posted on 04/18/2016 9:53:12 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitante)
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To: Trumpinator

I’d like to see US + China + Russia + India gang up and wipe out Islam.

And when there are no more Muslims plaguing the world, burn every copy of the Koran. Then flush the ashes of the Korans. Then destroy every digital copy. Then burn every page that refers to Mohammed, Islam or Muslims. Erase it from history.


10 posted on 04/18/2016 10:10:30 PM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: Dick Vomer

WW3 is coming!

It will be started to cover up the real reasons for the upcoming financial collapse.

We seem to be itching to start a major conflict... I think we may be the one to light the fire :-(


11 posted on 04/18/2016 10:10:40 PM PDT by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: Dick Vomer

Communism and Islamism are on the same team. Kevin Freeman’s book, “Secret Weapon”, gives a very clear, documented picture of that.

And Obama is and has always been on that team.

I’ve come to believe that the Babylon of Revelation is the world banking system, and it is going to collapse at the hands of the beast out of the sea and the beast out of the earth (one of which is corrupt government - communism - and the other of which is corrupt religion - Islam). They will do it by jizya - a tax on infidels, which amounts to not being able to buy or sell unless you accept sharia, the mark of the beast.

Ultimately the two beasts in service to the dragon (Satan) will fight each other. By then, those who follow Christ will all be dead. People still alive will all wish they were dead. Imagine a world where your choice is Stalin or ISIS... I’m glad I’ll be gone by then. I suspect it will be pretty soon...


12 posted on 04/18/2016 10:10:50 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Trumpinator

Russia and China have been united for a decade already. And Obama’s on their side what with being pro-Iran; tells me all I need to know.


13 posted on 04/18/2016 10:16:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Trumpinator

why not bring china along. Its not like china is is pro-islam


14 posted on 04/18/2016 10:18:44 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Vince Ferrer

I can’t wait to see Saudi Arabia burn.

That’s for 9/11 you ####s.


15 posted on 04/18/2016 10:21:36 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Dick Vomer

We don’t like our federal government telling us what to do at the point of a gun... why would anyone else on the planet like it either?


16 posted on 04/18/2016 10:23:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Vince Ferrer

Eventually, US + Russia + China vs islam.

Nope....

Japan vs. Islam

Because Japan is not as suicidal as the rest of the countries that let’s islam into it’s country.


17 posted on 04/18/2016 10:42:28 PM PDT by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: butterdezillion
Communism and Islamism are on the same team. Kevin Freeman’s book, “Secret Weapon”, gives a very clear, documented picture of that.

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There has been a concerted effort by some of the neocon types after 9/11 to whitewash the American Military Industrial Complex foreign policy support to jihadis from the 1980s onwards.

They want to somehow link al-Qaeda with the USSR rather than the CIA. They use examples of the USSR supporting the PLO types as "evidence" but the PLO was actually not Islamic in outlook and was founded by Arab commies who were from Christian and Muslim Pali backgrounds.

The USSR and modern Russia and the current Red Chinese are fighting Islamist insurgencies and have been for a long time. The US state Dept of Repubs and Dems (makes no difference) has been hammering Russian and China on human rights abuses against Muslim jihadists and in effect giving the jihadists cover (See neocon efforts supporting Chechens and see Chinese Uighurs).

18 posted on 04/18/2016 11:22:19 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: 4rcane

That is a good point.


19 posted on 04/18/2016 11:24:09 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Dick Vomer; Vince Ferrer; Trumpinator; SunkenCiv; caww; 2ndDivisionVet; All

Russian communism is an ideology. An ideology which replaces religion. There is only one true religion—Islam. Therefore, Islam and Russia are highly unlikely to ever be serious allies. Russia has supported Assad because they need access to southern waters. In this case the Mediterranean. Also, Assad’s version of Islam is NOT supported by the dominant, Saudi supported, Sunni branch. Side note: my son has 20 years in Special Forces, and the 82nd, tour in Gulf War I, 2 tours in Afghanistan. I pay close attention to this stuff.

You are right, this is the long war, but most Americans do not understand that. However, it started more than 1000 years ago, not in WWI, and will continue far into the future. I gave my son a copy of Machiavelli’s The Prince when he was 14. He understands the long war. And he decided he would be interested in war, not the reverse. The Chinese also understand importance of the long view. We really need to educate for that.


20 posted on 04/18/2016 11:39:11 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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