Posted on 04/18/2016 8:36:31 AM PDT by reaganaut1
.. How can one compete effectively if that person doesn’t understand the rules?
And yet had every opportunity to learn and apply them to his own advantage.
Did you not read the Breitbart investigation?
The whole process of dispensing with caucus voting was engineered by party insiders to benefit Ted Cruz as part of an emergent #nevertrump agenda
No one in recent history has ever seen such an aggressive and vitriolic campaign by the party against its own very popular frontrunner, so don’t blame the people who actually had very little input. and no warning of the agenda, for being enraged at this betrayal, which is a de facto disenfranchisement by other means
betrayal of trust may be legal but its not going to get anyone including the elites what they want - unless it is a democrat victory in the general
which is entirely plausible that’s what they want
Ground game? Is this what the CO voters are electing? Not a leader but someone who is motivated and skilled in manipulating elections?
Are you suggesting that CO charade was not the perfect setup for those motivated to manipulate the will of the people?
The GOP runs like a banana republic and the more folks try to defend it the more ridicule you invite down on your own heads. While your beloved institution burns to a smoldering cinder you are like Wile E. Coyote rereading the ACME warranty guaranteeing that this would not blow up in your own face. Operating this machine in the clear view of voters could be hazardous to your safety and health.
I am very dissappointed that we are actually espousing and celebrating the use of Alynsky tactics right here on FR.
“The ends justifies the means!”
“Mock, attack and change perceptions. Eventually, the public will see a different reality!”
What was once a great process in Nevada and Hawaii is now “stealing an election” in Colorado and Wyoming.
Are you suggesting what occurred in Colorado was not tailor made for those motivated to manipulate elections?
Are you suggesting what occurred in Colorado’s caucus/delegate system a few days ago was principled, above board, legitimate and honorable?
Cruz took the slimy ambulance-chasing lawyer path in Colorado and elsewhere, and Trump gave him a black eye for doing it. I don't have a problem with Trump having done that, and it definitely wasn't illegal. Trump's making the right moves, and Teddy-boy's Colorado Disaster redirected the public discussion, ending the ridiculous string of phony stories about his sudden emergence as leader in the race. How can one compete effectively if that person doesn't understand the way things work?
LOL!
Thiessen is such a putz. Imagine his futile claim that people had the “opportunity” to vote for these delegates. Not for the candidates, oh, no, but for the delegates who will decide the peoples vote.
People are so incompetent and in the way, anyway certainly not mature enough to cast a vote directly for one of the candidates, but must have some cow decide the outcome for them. All this, in a room full among a herd of cows— called “delegates”, who go in and make the loser the winner.
Too funny for words.
Of all FReepers, I never thought I’d see *you* stoop to meaningless photo gags instead of thoughtful debate.
How far we have fallen.
It's anti-democratic whichever way you argue it - and they argue it both ways - we lied or well, we cheated you but you should have seen it coming. The only choice in response is testing out a rope over a branch of the old oak tree or splitting some rails and boiling up some tar.
>>>How can one compete effectively if that person doesn’t understand the rules?
Or, if, understanding the rules, doesn’t or can’t get his supporters to turn out to vote for his delegates?
But rather tells the big lie that the delegate selection was ‘voterless’?
Colorado worked the way Coloradoans decided beforehand, and published for all candidates to know. And published before hand just like other states. The basic mechanism, in place for over 100 years, means instead of polling places where folks stop by if they feel like it on election day (primary states), they prefer a different mechanism - voters get off their duff, congregate at caucus locations and elect delegates. Clearly, the CO mechanism requires a bit more moxie. But, with 50 states, there is a smorgasbord of mechanisms - some will favor more conservative candidates, some less (like where ‘Rat voters can vote in Pub primaries).
Candidates can read the rules and abide by them, or they can let it slide, see how it turns out, jump for joy if they win, and whine if they lose.
“Did you not read the Breitbart investigation?
The whole process of dispensing with caucus voting was engineered by party insiders to benefit Ted Cruz as part of an emergent #nevertrump agenda”
And this should be proof enough to you that Brietbart is no longer interested in honest reporting. The actual rule changes in Colorado happened in August, long before the “never Trump” groups popped up. The expectation of EVERYONE in June/July/August was that we would ALL have to be fighting Jeb or Christie.
Yes, Trump had announced and was gaining traction in the base, but NO ONE expected us to be where we are today. Brietbart’s attempt to revise history, should be an eye opener for many. Sadly, it won’t be.
>> I don’t like caucus rules, but I blame Trump for not learning the rules and at least trying.
“The Art Of The Dull” by Donald Trump.
Can’t post that analogy without this one...
(Arthur’s house is about to be demolished)
Mr Prosser: But, Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months.
Arthur: Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn’t exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them had you? I mean like actually telling anybody or anything.
Mr Prosser: But the plans were on display…
Arthur: On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.
Mr Prosser: That’s the display department.
Arthur: With a torch.
Mr Prosser: The lights had probably gone out.
Arthur: So had the stairs.
Mr Prosser: But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?
Arthur: Yes yes I did. It was on display at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard.
What are you suggesting Tick? Is this something new? Is it un-American for Americans to design and or post images or pictures to make a point?
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You evaded the questions. See the question marks?
One more time.
Are you suggesting what occurred in Colorado was not tailor made for those motivated to manipulate elections?
Are you suggesting what occurred in Colorado’s caucus/delegate system a few days ago was principled, above board, legitimate and honorable?
I think you’re seeing the TRUMP act coming together quite nicely.
He has simply backed off these states, fried bigger fish, and let Cruz make a fool of himself, to freely run around claiming these empty victories of voterless outcomes.
When your opponent is self-destructing, no need to interfere.
That vaunted “ground game” of his has turned around and bitten him squarely in the nether region.
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