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Trump’s ‘voterless’ election myth
Washington Post ^ | April 18, 2016 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 04/18/2016 8:36:31 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Donald Trump is complaining that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is racking up “voterless” victories in states such as Colorado and Wyoming, where delegates are chosen by a “small handful of elites” who are “sidelining” Republican voters.

This is dead wrong. In both Colorado and Wyoming, all registered Republican voters in the state had the chance to vote and participate in the delegate selection process.

The Wyoming Republican Party website explains the process clearly: “Delegates to the state convention are elected by the county conventions. Delegates to the county convention are elected by precinct caucuses in their respective counties. Any person registered to vote Republican as of the call for precinct caucuses in a given precinct may vote in that precinct’s caucus” (emphasis added).

In other words, there is a whole lot of voting going on. All Republicans in Wyoming had the chance to go to their precinct and vote for delegates who support their preferred candidate. And they did so in record numbers. In Laramie County, for example, the lines ran out the door on Super Tuesday, and turnout was up almost 400 percent compared with 2012. “The lines outside, they are amazing,” said Glen Chavez, a first-time caucus-goer. “If you’ve never taken part in something like this, get involved. If you want to make the difference, you make the change.”

The same was true for Colorado. Under Article XII of the Colorado Republican Party’s bylaws, any person who is a resident of a precinct for 30 days and is a registered voter “affiliated with the Republican Party” for at least two months can vote in a precinct caucus. Any such person can also run for delegate.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Wyoming
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To: FreeReign
China is a one centralized party system. The US is 2 (or more) parties competing.

The rules are rigged in favor of a two party system. It is very difficult for third parties to challenge the two major parties. And some of us think we really have a Uniparty with the Dems and Reps being just two wings of the same party.

In the US, the parties make their own rules, not the government.

There is plenty of government involvement (federal and state) in the electoral system. The operations of the parties are circumscribed by laws and regulations. We have campaign finance laws.

In 1975, Congress created the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to administer and enforce the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) - the statute that governs the financing of federal elections. The duties of the FEC, which is an independent regulatory agency, are to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections.

The Commission is made up of six members, who are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Each member serves a six-year term, and two seats are subject to appointment every two years. By law, no more than three Commissioners can be members of the same political party, and at least four votes are required for any official Commission action. This structure was created to encourage nonpartisan decisions. The Chairmanship of the Commission rotates among the members each year, with no member serving as Chairman more than once during his or her term.

181 posted on 04/18/2016 6:26:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Raycpa

That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw all the (Cruzer) claims that the rules were known way ahead of time.

The perception is that the CO delegate assignment was rigged. Even if the rules *were* prominently posted at our local planning department in Alpha Centauri.


182 posted on 04/18/2016 6:26:55 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Pollster1
I don’t like caucus rules, but I blame Trump for not learning the rules and at least trying.

It's known as strategy, and looking at the bigger picture. Trump could have wasted a lot of time and his own money courting delegates in a state where the party bosses were doing everything they could to block him out--or he could have let them have that little victory and used it for strategic advantage. And that's what it looks like he did.

It is hard to argue that Cruz has actually benefited. He's dropped to third place in some polls--which really cuts into his ability to get any more delegates.

183 posted on 04/18/2016 6:30:47 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: reaganaut1

Those delegates were stolen fair and square. Rules is rules.


184 posted on 04/18/2016 8:13:35 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: LS; gusopol3; wardaddy

Amanda for sure. Just too many public clues left by Amanda herself.

Not sure there’s any others but one is enough to puncture the religious posturing.


185 posted on 04/18/2016 8:20:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: CSM

Pyrrhic victory for Ted.


186 posted on 04/18/2016 8:22:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: LS; Pelham

Yep Amanda has a big mouth

Addicted to social media like many a feline today

You can see the pain on Heidi Cruz face.....unfortunately


187 posted on 04/18/2016 8:31:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (gonna need a lot of rope and lamposts and gibbets after this primary season.....)
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To: FreeReign

I agree with you. The excerpt you grabbed from my post, was a quoted excerpt I grabbed from another post. ;-)


188 posted on 04/19/2016 12:44:00 PM PDT by CSM (White wine sipping, caviar munching, Georgetown cocktail circuit circulating, Perrier conservative.)
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To: Pelham

Thank you for actually proving my point.


189 posted on 04/19/2016 12:49:29 PM PDT by CSM (White wine sipping, caviar munching, Georgetown cocktail circuit circulating, Perrier conservative.)
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To: nathanbedford; BuckeyeTexan

“Colorado public notice laws require notices be uploaded to http://publicnoticecolorado.com. Go search “republican precinct caucus” and you will see the notices.”

“I await the response of dsc to your important post setting out the legal requirement to publicize a time and place of the meetings.”

Public notices are traditionally published in newspapers and posted in public places. To create a web site and pretend that everyone should magically know about it is thoroughly dishonest.

I doubt that one Coloradan in a thousand has ever heard of http://publicnoticecolorado.com. I read a lot, I talk to a lot of people…not living in a cave here, but I had never heard of it.

I’d be very interested to learn how BuckeyeTexan found out about that site.


190 posted on 04/19/2016 2:08:41 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“Newspaper ads well hidden? C’mon!”

What newspaper ads?


191 posted on 04/19/2016 2:09:42 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: nathanbedford

“Act like what?”

I was speaking of remarks like this: “Mere allegations of voter fraud, or even malicious intention and dark suspicions are not evidence.”

Not just that, but I haven’t the time or inclination for a recitation of grievances.

As for what I haven’t seen you do before, I haven’t seen you react as you do here.


192 posted on 04/19/2016 2:14:19 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

“Times and places of meetings are closely held to prevent interference by the voters.”

I just spent a few minutes doing a web search on “Colorado precinct caucus locations.” One site had where you put your address in and it would give the location, but it is now closed as the caucuses are over. Maybe it never was working. http://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/Candidates/FAQs/caucuses.html

Another site had a map of the counties, then the precincts and click on the precincts and it gave the location. http://gazette.com/2016-caucus

All precincts were at 7 pm on March 1.

I suppose there could be errors, moved locations, etc. But it doesn’t look to me like there is a coordinated attempt to obscure the locations. (And the time isn’t confusing at all - 7 pm on March 1).


193 posted on 04/19/2016 2:31:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 21twelve

“I suppose there could be errors, moved locations, etc.”

When I searched, nothing like that came up.


194 posted on 04/19/2016 3:40:56 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc; BuckeyeTexan
“ COLORADO PUBLIC NOTICE LAWS REQUIRE notices be uploaded to http://publicnoticecolorado.com…"(emphasis supplied)


195 posted on 04/19/2016 7:59:47 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: dsc; nathanbedford
What newspaper ads?

All of the newspaper ads that are conveniently compiled for you and uploaded to your state website.

“When any legal notice is required by law to be published in any newspaper, the newspaper publishing the notice shall, at no additional cost to the person or entity placing the notice, place the notice on a statewide web site established and maintained by an organization representing a majority of Colorado newspapers as a repository for the notices.”

196 posted on 04/20/2016 1:18:34 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: dsc; nathanbedford
Public notices are traditionally published in newspapers and posted in public places. To create a web site and pretend that everyone should magically know about it is thoroughly dishonest.

No, it isn't dishonest. It's extremely convenient for you. Newspapers still publish the traditional public notices. Now they are required by CO law to take the second step of uploading the notices to a centralized repository at that web site.

I’d be very interested to learn how BuckeyeTexan found out about that site.

Google. It's a new fangled research tool on the interwebz. ;)

197 posted on 04/20/2016 1:28:28 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: reaganaut1

Marc Thiessen, GOPe shill.

WaPo Pravda on the Potomac.


198 posted on 04/20/2016 3:55:41 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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To: Raycpa

The Vogon Council has reassigned your allotment of galactic delegates.

All your Primaries belong to us.

Sincerely, the Vogon Cubanadians.


199 posted on 04/20/2016 4:01:24 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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To: snarkpup

Love that phrase!


200 posted on 04/20/2016 4:05:37 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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