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VANITY: What states would Ted Cruz win in 2016 that Romney lost in 2012?
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Posted on 04/03/2016 6:31:03 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2

Would some Cruz people please tell me, and be specific with EV counts, what states would Ted Cruz win that Mitt Romney did NOT win in 2012, and get to a total of at least 270 EV's?


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To: llmc1

That also is humorous as people refuse to be polled, lie to pollsters, and often have poll questions which are impossible to answer as you really believe. Guess we will all have to see what the votes are and how well the GOPe feels they can screw Americans.


101 posted on 04/03/2016 8:08:22 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Theophilus

I really you are wrong. One of the biggest reason why we should go with Trump is that you could very well win NY. He will win Florida with no problem.

Cruz will lose PA, OH, FL, VA, and maybe NC. These are all states that Trump will probably win.


102 posted on 04/03/2016 8:08:27 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: smokingfrog

None is the answer. He would get steamrolled by Hillary Clinton. She does dirty trix and lying much better than Teddy does. She has more experience at it.


103 posted on 04/03/2016 8:11:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: usconservative

Well lets take your first thing, there is a path to 1237 for Cruz. He has to win 81% of the delegates, last time I checked. To do that he only has to win 54% of the voters. Is this a difficult road to hoe, yes am I delusional to say that it will happen no. Because Trump will win NY and NJ 90 delegates in NY and 51 for NJ, and outside of PA and CA these two states are the largest hauls remaining.

Well this technically already refutes your second point that Trump is the only candidate with a path.

Much like Mark Levin, I don’t play those games of strategic voting. I vote for the candidate that I agree with and like. If more people did this then our country would not be in the shape it is, because we would have run someone other than McCain, and someone other than Romney.

Trump supporters are outraged at the fact that Trump is losing delegates in states he won, because of party leadership. However if Trump was as good as you think then he would be able to keep those delegates in his fold. What we see happening is that as this race goes on it is becoming two dimensional. One dimension is winning the states moving forward on the calendar. The other dimension is keeping the delegates already won in previous states, and in this race Trump is radically unprepared. This is seen by the fact that SC,MA,TN, and other states are all being talked about as him losing the delegates he has won.

So if Trump can’t keep the delegates he has won, then how can he run the country?


104 posted on 04/03/2016 8:15:49 AM PDT by PA-LU Student (Ted Cruz. The one man the Republican Field is afraid to debate one on one!)
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To: BigBobber

I know this won’t happen, but I wish Trump haters would go to youtube and watch his rally speeches all the way from beginning to end.

If you just listen to the short sound bites that fit with whatever narrative the media is trying to spin, or second hand quotes of something he supposedly said, of course you will see whatever they want you to see.

But you will not see the real Trump and you will not get the flavor of what his supporters are all about either.

In short, you will not get the full story, you will not get all of the information. You will be a low information voter.


105 posted on 04/03/2016 8:20:49 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: tatown

The republican primary voters are a subset of the general voting population.

It that so hard to understand?

As to Trump ‘popularity’. Having 100% name recognition helps combined with wall to wall coverage IOW lots of free media, compared to any other candidate. These things make a difference.


106 posted on 04/03/2016 8:22:52 AM PDT by Leto
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To: lovesdogs

Nor in Ohio and Florida


107 posted on 04/03/2016 8:24:34 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: BigBobber
I see more women than Cruz has at the Rallies

I don't see the the crowds for Cruz other than the Establishment

108 posted on 04/03/2016 8:27:18 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Eccl 10:2

While you are at it, why not ask what states Trump would lose that Romney won in 2012? Based on the polling, so far it looks like Utah, Arizona, possibly SD...


109 posted on 04/03/2016 8:30:49 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: gg188

Alberta for sure, land of his birth


110 posted on 04/03/2016 8:34:05 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: tatown; John Valentine

Lunatic and moron. Good work John as you’re in the same boat as this John. Was not called a name on FR until 2015. Wonder what changed?


111 posted on 04/03/2016 8:45:26 AM PDT by John W (Under One Year And Counting!)
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To: Eccl 10:2

I don’t think this is the right question, and neither is the Trump question.

The right question is: What states, if any, would Hillary win (against either Cruz or Trump) that Gore and Kerry lost.

As evil and bigoted as Obama is, he had two big advantages - his voice charms his fellow parasites, and he’s black. I don’t believe Hillary will get anywhere near the black turnout that Obama did. I also have seen no signs that the average liberal is charmed by Hillary. It’s her turn, just like Jeb, but they are no more interested in her than we were in Jeb.

Hillary’s best chance is a circular firing squad among republicans. Between the Trump/Cruz wars and the establishment antics, she may get what she needs, and I suspect her party is paying some of the trolls who instigate and throw gasoline on the flames of those wars.

Cruz and Trump agree far more than 80% of the time (see my tagline from Ronald Reagan). They should be friends and allies, and we should treat both of them as such.

To answer the question, the obvious states to consider are FL, NV, AZ, CO, NC, VA, IA, and MO. Even if “can Cruz win there” seems unlikely in that state, the parallel question “can Hillary win there” may be even more unlikely.


112 posted on 04/03/2016 9:03:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: palmer

agreed


113 posted on 04/03/2016 9:09:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Mollypitcher1

yeo I hardly ever see a cruz sticker or sign it is always Trump and a few Bernie .

As for the people I know then there was a couple for cruz, but they switched their vote a couple of weeks before the election here and I now no of no one who wants cruz.


114 posted on 04/03/2016 9:10:57 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: fireman15

It was over for Trump after FL,and he knew it , but he stayed in to do the dirty work for he establishment, while peddling his lies and avoiding questions to answer.


115 posted on 04/03/2016 9:13:07 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Do you have a typo?


116 posted on 04/03/2016 9:19:30 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Hell, he wouldn’t even win Texas in the general.


117 posted on 04/03/2016 9:22:10 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: John W

Nice job misquoting me. I referred to the argument as ‘lunacy’ and ‘moronic’. You may have been here since 1999 (big deal) but your reading comprehension is severely lacking.


118 posted on 04/03/2016 9:30:21 AM PDT by tatown (#Cheatin' Ted - A 'principled' conservative)
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To: tatown

Everyone knows what is meant when you phrase things that way. That includes you.


119 posted on 04/03/2016 9:33:10 AM PDT by John W (Under One Year And Counting!)
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To: John W

Whatever. If you believe that, you probably also believe that Cruz wasn’t born in Canada or that he and his prophet Glenn Beck didn’t hand out welcome packages of teddy bears and soccer balls to illegal aliens in McAllen, TX. You probably also believe that Cruz is an outsider inspite of the fact that he is working hand in glove with the Bushes and the rest of the GOPe. Those are just a few of many moronic and lunatic beliefs.


120 posted on 04/03/2016 9:46:33 AM PDT by tatown (#Cheatin' Ted - A 'principled' conservative)
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