Posted on 03/30/2016 4:20:27 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Apples does’t even sell the model that was cracked anymore in the US. The newer ones are supposed to be much harder to get into. Look at how much hassle it took them to get into the cheap, old 5c. My iPhone is much more secure than I thought it was before this mess with the FBI. I do not see how this will hurt them at all.
Not a chance. Apple’s stock is up since the dropping of the Obama Administration’s lawsuit. There are only 20 nations whose Gross Domestic Product exceeds Apple’s current valuation.
Although I may never own an iPhone, I am rooting for Apple.
“Apple wins. Government hacks loose.”
Apple looses. That claimed “HACKPROOF!” and it isn’t.
Now the feds are in control of the hacking. The feds did the hacking and Apple has no part of it.
Apple could have stayed in control and cooperated but Apple prefers to support muslim terrorist.
Fact is that NO device is hackproof. There simply isn’t any device that is hackproof if an engineer has physical possession of the device.
Poorly written and ill conceived laws are eventually tools of oppression.
I side with Apple philosophically and grudgingly side with them in practice for nothing goes misused and abused by this set of federal politicians and their parasitic bureaucrats.
But make no mistake. These companies, Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Apple et al will all sell you out with no thought for you. What they want and why the hold out is is for ‘cover’. They put up a visible fight while surreptitiously giving in as long as there is no paper trail.
It is just as likely that a Apple slipped them what they need under the table through a 3rd party than a 3rd party had it cracked already.
"Anyone" can't crack the code to the iPhone. It required one of the most sophisticated security companies in the world, Cellebrite, to do it several months of work to accomplish that task.
"The company (Cellebrite) has a manufacturing facility and research operations in Israel, where it employs hundreds. It has marketing operations in the U.S., Singapore, Germany and Brazil. . .Forensics and data-recovery firms have built businesses on their ability to retrieve data that appears to be unreadable. In recent years Apple has forced them to step up their game. When it introduced iOS 8 in 2014, Apple said it would no longer have the ability to decrypt data stored on the phone. The newer iOS 9 and hardware upgrades to the iPhone itself make Apple’s devices even more secure.'
Mr. Guido believes that his company (Trail of Bits) could gain access to the data on Mr. Farook’s phone in one to three months.
At DriveSavers Inc., another company looking for a way into the phone, director of engineering Mike Cobb says his team, too, is approaching a solution. SOURCE — " Apple Fight Sets Off Race Among Hackers" —By ROBERT MACMILLAN — Wall Street Journal — March 23, 2016
It's not an easy hack. It requires very sophisticated equipment to accomplish it. . . and that is for now obsolete technology in a four year old iPhone 5C that has been superseded by much more robust security technology in the iPhone 5S, 6, 6Plus, then this year's 6S, and 6S Plus with the Secure Element processor.
This is a good article but I challenge the statement that the US Govt would be breaking the 1986 law about computer hacking.
There have been court-recognized and decisioned cases where “a clear and present danger” or “imminent danger” takes precedence over normal laws. This is especially true in taking police action immediately without a warrant because someone was in “imminent danger” of being killed and there wasn’t enough time to physically get a warrant for entry or anything else.
When you are dealing with terrorism, as well as with kidnappers and serial killers, time is of the essence in which to act to save lives and prevent further acts of murder and destruction.
The Belgians learned the hard way about putting stupid limitations on their raids re the times in which you could or could not conduct them.
IF they had acted earlier, meaning conducting night raids on suspected terrorist houses/apartments, then they probably could have stopped the bombings at the airport and maybe even the bus.
Try to tell the families of the victims as well as the maimed survivors that the “law” prevented the police from acting quickly despite a real “imminent danger”.
Tim Cook of Apple is a bastard and should be fired by the Board of Directors, but they won’t because they are “putting profits before people” (the old leftist/Marxist chant) and are cowards.
It is time that sane Americans woke up and smelled the smoke of terrorist explosions, and did something about it, from getting rid of reds and socialists and liberals in Congress and state/local politics, boycotting businesses who put profits above the safety of fellow Americans, and getting rid of Marxist/jihadist professors who protect our enemies from reasonable law enforcement surveillance.
That also means stopping donations to the ACLU which is, today, a parallel legal entity to those of the old Soviet-directed Communist Party USA (i.e. the old cited CP front, the National Lawyers Guild and its’ offshoot, the Center for Constitutional Rights, and the other cited CPUSA legal front, the National Emergency Civil Liberties Union - NECLC).
Also, donations to the Southern Poverty Law Center should be stopped. They are so far left I’m having a hard time finding where to place them between the NLG/CCR and NECLC.
There are as much a threat to our safety as are the terrorists themselves because the SPLC covers up for them, just as does CAIR and many of the pro-Palestine organizations.
The family members and neighbors of the San Bernadino terrorists didn’t “see something, report it” to the police because the groups above cowered them into inaction with threats of lawsuits, boycotts, protests/harassment, etc.
The enemies of America operate here with near impunity because of the American Left and its ally, the Islamic jihadists and supporters are able to cower most of us into inaction, aided and abetted by a totally incompetent, biased and ignorant Mainstream Media.
It is time to take back our country, and if we have to squash an Apple to do so, fine. I like apple sauce.
We either take a stand now, or give in to the reds, black extremists and Islamic hordes now running amok in our schools and campuses, courts, and streets.
Ferguson was nothing compared to what is being planned. I was in the midst of a similar major protest movement many years ago, and out of it came the Weathermen despite both my warning and that of a congressional committee about it what the Marxist left was going to do.
The media ignored Congress and the FBI, academia turned cowardly and gave into the Marxist thugs, and many police departments were totally unprepared for what was happening.
Forewarned is forearmed. I would trust the Boy Scouts to more “Be Prepared” for trouble than our present Marxist-run and ruined government and most Democrat-run state and local governments.
We MUST UNITE against our common enemies, not against each other. They want us to fight amongst ourselves, leading to bloody pyrrhic victories that bled us dry, all the while unifying in a Marxist/black extremist lockstep that Hitler and Stalin would be proud of.
2016 is the year in which America’s freedom is saved and preserved, or lost, possibly for all time.
Then there would be the small matter of all those agents lying to a Federal Judge. Apart from the fact that I very much doubt their ethics would allow it, (I assume most FBI people are relatively ethical) someone would rat them out if they lied. The agents would not only lose their careers, they would likely be prosecuted.
No, i'm pretty confident that Israeli company broke that phone, and yes, Apple now has egg on it's face.
Apple did not "Sell out" nor are they interested in selling out their customers as the other three companies you listed are. Apple is the company who stated that it is interested in supporting its customers while the others are interested in selling information about their customers. Apple has not done that. Apple is making it impossible for them to even KNOW anything about their customers by putting their customers' in charge of their own data and privacy, not Apple. Apple does not have the keys to those data and cannot decipher it. Apple cannot sell what it cannot read. On the other hand, Google reads every email sent through its Gmail system and every message sent through its messaging app and mines them for advertising purposes, targeting advertising both the senders and the recipients. Microsoft has now admitted they are doing the same thing with Windows 10.
Well ... I’m speechless. Mainly because I can’t even think of an alternate reality where this would be true.
Did you know Mike Vanderboegh “back then”?
Interesting, but the phone was not owned by the Muslime. It was county property and the county gave permission to the search. And using county property you have no expectation of privacy.
FBI lost too. They have cried wolf. When Apple gets the security/encryption right and FBI really does need their help to break into the device the American people will not be on their side.
I’m glad Apple stood strong. And hopefully will fix the security of the device making it harder for them to break into.
Not sure what world you live in where this one is “alternate” to you.
Apple’s basic axiom is secrecy.
Google’s basic axiom is know everything.
Microsoft’s basic axiom is embrace, extend, extinguish.
Apple doesn’t want to tell anyone anything (not even how much RAM is in an iPad).
Google wants to mine all the data it can (even their car exists only to gather data).
Microsoft wants to squash the competition by any means (even buy competitors just to kill them).
If anyone is selling out, it’s Google as a CIA project.
I was wondering when the CIA would be taking a crack at it.
Please show where Apple claimed their iPhones were "Hackproof." You won't find it. You will find anti-Apple sites such as FUDZilla claiming Apple said it as an interpretation of the words Apple actually used, but you won't find Apple claiming the iPhone is "unhackable" or "hackproof," because that is an unknowable absolute, which can be falsified by a single hack, whether it results in data breeches or not.
In fact, Apple said the iPhone 5C was hackable. They said they COULD get into it but thought it was setting a bad precedent to do so. They even said the reason they refused was that it was against Federal law for the FBI to require Apple to unlock the security of that iPhone.
Apple has stated that the more modern iPhones with the A7, A8, or A9 processors with the Secure Element sub-processor in them are far more secure than the A6 processor with the Encryption Engine sub-processor .
Apple could have stayed in control and cooperated but Apple prefers to support muslim terrorist.
Apple does NOT prefer to "support muslim terrorists", liar. It prefers to support the LAW as written in the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which prohibits law enforcement agencies such as the FBI from demanding that companies such as Apple from installing any software, features, hardware, or modifying any telecommunications equipment to defeat any encryption, not an Ad Hoc Court Order intended to side-step that very explicit law prohibiting them from doing what they were trying to do by having a COURT do it for them!
Apparently some prefer the rule of men over the rule of law. That makes them LIBERALS. If the shoe fits, wear it. . . and vote accordingly.
Still speechless.
When you get your voice back, do some research.
These principles are well known and understood by people who deal with this stuff everyday.
Such articles are no different from junk tweets... not worth bothering with 'em. They're a dime a dozen and even at that, a ripoff of people's time.
apple wins. the people win.
apple’can always’improve their security, roll it out, and then fedgov is screwed for awhile again.
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