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Message from border: ‘We got problems here’
Abqjournal ^ | Mar. 10, 2016 | Lauren Villagran

Posted on 03/11/2016 7:58:39 AM PST by AuntB

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“Secure the border for your family, our family,” Sue Krentz said in prepared remarks that earned a standing ovation. “We’re demanding the right to live free and safe on our own land and in our own homes.”
1 posted on 03/11/2016 7:58:39 AM PST by AuntB
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2 posted on 03/11/2016 7:59:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: AuntB

Any sightings of Cruz and Beck handing our teddy bears and soccer balls?


3 posted on 03/11/2016 8:03:39 AM PST by tatown (Career Policians Suck)
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To: AuntB

Soon the U.S. will be a bigger mess than Mexico and it’ll be Mexico building the wall to keep out and prevent reentry of all of their undesirables that they just exported to the U.S.

Bozo wants to destroy America and this is the way he is doing it. Flooding the country with illegals (They call undocumented immigrants), the uneducated, terrorists, people who are criminals, people with diseases, etc. Calling an illegal an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited guest.


4 posted on 03/11/2016 8:11:29 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: AuntB
They (every one of the Illegal Invaders) are trespassing. Shoot them dead, every one, only testimony is land owner's.

"I told them they were trespassing and to leave, they attacked me. I feared for my life."

Word will get to Mexico, quick.

5 posted on 03/11/2016 8:13:01 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: tatown

They’re waiting till after this nomination and then the teddy bears will be issued out again by them.
Once that happens the voters of theirs will state it is an act of compassion.


6 posted on 03/11/2016 8:15:38 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: AuntB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfWidZH0xBs

Drug problems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khD3gJGLvQo

Illegal immigration


7 posted on 03/11/2016 8:16:31 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: AuntB
Trump's border security:

cowboyway's border security:


8 posted on 03/11/2016 8:19:57 AM PST by cowboyway (TEOTWAWKI and I feel fine...........)
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To: HomerBohn
HomerBohn:" Flooding the country with illegals (They call undocumented immigrants), the uneducated, terrorists, people who are criminals, people with diseases, etc.
Calling an illegal an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited guest."

Bozo ,"The Destroyer", will go down in history, remembered for selling out the country
just a much as Carter ,.."The Inadequate".
He wants a legacy as a 'Globalist' ,
but never forget that he let in the invader "Trojan Horse" that is innside the 'Hen House' under refugee compassion !!

9 posted on 03/11/2016 8:29:53 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: cowboyway

That’s a fence, not Trump’s WALL and your border security is fanaticism.


10 posted on 03/11/2016 8:29:56 AM PST by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Build the Wall !!


11 posted on 03/11/2016 8:31:38 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: cowboyway

Need a smart wall, something embedded at the base and top, high voltage lines comes to my mind. Or a piping system that can spray capsicum. Or a narrow gauge rail that can use a car with firepower, such as a chain gun, it can travel atop the wall out of armored turrets spaced say a mile or so apart, remotely operated and tethered to the rails like on a roller coaster. If nothing else it can be just a roving sentry.


12 posted on 03/11/2016 9:04:05 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
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To: AuntB

This is a mixed bag. More than a few ranchers there are dirty, bought off. Talk to any Border Patrol guy down there about the roadblocks some border ranchers impose on them.

Border ranches are required to allow Border Patrol on their property, but they aren’t required to allow vehicles or horses. So the dirty ones lock gates and refuse vehicle access to the dirt roads. The agent is free to walk across 7 or 8 miles of high desert if he wants.
Its naïve to think corruption stops at the border. They are paid well to simply not look at the window Thursday night, and to not allow USBP vehicles through their gates, things like that.

An example is the Skeleton canyon road. From Apache Az down into the Coronado national forest and the Geronimo surrender site. The road is maybe 10 miles long. Its been a county road for 100 years. The landowner went to great lengths to close it, effectively making the Coronado forest his personal land, and letting Mexicans go freely down that road. Talk to the agents down there. Claimed it was to stop smuggling traffic, but the only vehicles he refuses are the Border Patrol.

And some of the loudest voices are the worst offenders.


13 posted on 03/11/2016 9:21:21 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Feckless

“”I told them they were trespassing and to leave, they attacked me. I feared for my life.” Word will get to Mexico, quick.”

Yes, it will indeed. And that is also a lonely place. And you have to sleep.


14 posted on 03/11/2016 9:23:27 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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“This is a mixed bag. More than a few ranchers there are dirty, bought off. Talk to any Border Patrol guy down there about the roadblocks some border ranchers impose on them.”

Give some links for your opinion. I’ve talked to lots of Bordder agents. I expect a few might give into the cartel $$, but that is NO EXCUSE for your fellow citizens to be run from their own homes.

LINKS PLEASE.


15 posted on 03/11/2016 10:00:20 AM PST by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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To: AuntB; LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...
This is another in a series of articles written by Lauren Villagran on border problems. Below is a link to the first which I posted on Monday. The others can be accessed through an ABQ Journal search on her name. This article was also linked on Drudge this morning.

NM ranchers outraged by lack of security at border (and article commenters are angry)

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16 posted on 03/11/2016 4:08:33 PM PST by CedarDave (Marco Rubio: the "Chameleon Candidate" - Changes positions faster than the reptile changes colors)
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Todd Starnes, writes via Fox News Opinion: What I'm about to tell you is politically incorrect, but it needs to be said.

There's a reason why Donald Trump is smoking his Republican competition: He wants to put Americans first -- not the illegals.

Trump understands a fundamental truth: The United States of America has been invaded by millions of illegals from Mexico and parts due south.

The illegals are pillaging and plundering our economy. Some are raping and murdering our fellow countrymen. They have been given accommodation at the expense of the American taxpayer.

And yet our elected leaders in Congress and the White House have chosen to stand down as the sovereignty of our great nation has been violated

221 posted on February 16, 2016 at 12:21:01 PM CST by DollyCali

17 posted on 03/11/2016 4:11:34 PM PST by Mr Apple ( COULTER on Hillary defending child rapist Thomas Taylor www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdkTqkLbL_4)
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I have lived on the border for over 40 years. Your claims don’t even make sense, what do you think people that live here can do if they see smuggling out their window? Can’t call BP unless you play online detective to find a phone number they will actually answer. No one has to pay to keep people from looking out their window and calling BP...they usually don’t answer their phones, are they paid to not answer the numbers published for them when there is smuggling going on? Speculation and accusations can go both ways. We used to have a pretty good relationship with BP, they even handed out business cards with a good number on them until they were told not to interact with locals, they are told the locals are dirty.

Guess what? We are told the same thing about BP, I have even been told by federal drug agents working in this area not to share info with BP because so many of them are dirty. With all the BP we have in this area it is hard to go any where without seeing one, unless there is blatant smuggling going on- then you will not see BP anywhere to tell them about what you see. Are they paid off to disappear? I have no idea if they are paid off or not and you have no idea if ranchers are.

We do know many BP don’t close gates, and they cut fences without telling anyone. They run over livestock and deny it was them. We had a donkey ran over and were told by a neighbor it was BP, we called the BP office and were told they had no vehicle accidents in our area- what do we see right after we talk to them but a tow truck with a wrecked BP truck hauling it out of here. A neighbor had a bull hit and found a BP vehicle at the store in town with black hair and blood in the grill after BP denied any of their guys hit livestock the night before. If BP hits our livestock or damages a fence we have to play CSI because they will deny, deny. I found gates open from our pasture to the highway and called BP to ask them to please close gates...I was informed there were no agents in my area, couldn’t be them. I caught an agent red handed leaving gates open and made him call his supervisor. I personally know people who have restricted their property to BP vehicles and it is because of the actions of BP.

There is little to no trust between locals and BP but it is not because all the ranchers are all dirty, it is because we are lied to time after time. I do believe most of the BP are good hard working people but I also believe they are sent out here with little training for the area and I know their office people will lie for them in a heart beat.


18 posted on 03/11/2016 6:27:11 PM PST by Tammy8
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Oh well you see we are all corrupt down here, that is why we keep asking for help with the border issues. That is why we have meetings that are standing room only and that is why we constantly contact our politicians and beg for something to be done.

Funny thing is if you search corruption on the border the results don’t point to ranchers being the problem.


19 posted on 03/11/2016 6:50:45 PM PST by Tammy8
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Interesting who is actually hindering BP on the actual border which is where BP would be most effective...

Some of the most dangerous areas along the southern border are the 20.7 million acres of Department of the Interior (DOI) and U.S. Forest Service (USFS) land. This includes 4.3 million acres of “Wilderness areas” where activities such as the use of motorized vehicles and construction of roads and structures are prohibited.

Documents show that the Department of the Interior and the U.S. Forest Service have consistently and actively taken steps that prevent the Border Patrol from securing our nation’s borders on federal lands. According to internal memos, DOI officials have asserted that the Wilderness Act of 1964 trumps border security legislation passed by Congress.

Not only is DOI blocking efforts to secure the border, but it is even charging DHS money in order to conduct border patrol operations on its land. DHS has paid DOI over $9 million since 2007 to mitigate the purported “environmental damage” of protecting our border. Per a Memorandum of Agreement signed in 2009, DHS agreed to hand over an additional $50 million for mitigation funds to DOI; however DOI has yet to disclose how exactly these funds will be used.

This extortion is taking valuable money away from border patrol that is needed to safeguard our nation.

http://naturalresources.house.gov/info/borderoverview.htm

20 posted on 03/11/2016 7:04:22 PM PST by Tammy8
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