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About Ted Cruz – Using Trans-Pacific Trade Deal Example…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 2/22/2016 | Sundance

Posted on 02/22/2016 9:42:02 PM PST by Aria

Hardly anyone pays close enough attention to politicians, legislative constructs, inner working machinations, and the attached agenda/intent, as would be needed to fully grasp what is going on. How could the casual follower possibly understand? It is an overwhelmingly challenging task even for those engaged 24/7/365.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; conjobtrumphouse; cruz; ineligible; tpa; tpp
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To: fortheDeclaration
LINK your PROOF (if you can)!

Now let's really take a close look at HOW the Trans-Pacific Partnership was passed. (It took me a long time to track it down.)

Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.

So EVEN THOUGH the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" attached this UNPOPULAR BILL to another Bill titled "Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act", hoping that Senators would FEAR

TED CRUZ
voted
AGAINST TPP !


Trump and Rubio supports are RARELY HONEST.
121 posted on 02/23/2016 4:27:40 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
TED CRUZ: Sure. There is a lot of confusion, and there's unfortunately a lot of misinformation that you can get on the internet, that people are confused. So let's explain what each of those three are. TPA is trade promotion authority. That's also known as fast track. That is the process through which free trade agreements are negotiated. Historically since FDR, virtually every president has had fast track authority. What fast track provides is simply if a free trade agreement is negotiated, the Congress will vote on it up or down without amendment. And history has demonstrated for the last 80 years that the only way to get free trade agreements adopted is to have fast track, that if there is no fast track, free trade agreements do not end up being negotiated. TPA is what the Senate voted on recently. I voted in favor of fast track, because I support free trade. I think free trade benefits America, it creates jobs, opening markets to our farmers, to our ranchers, to our manufacturers, improves economic growth. In Texas alone, roughly three million jobs depend upon international trade. And if you support free trade, the only way history has shown free trade agreements get negotiated is with fast track. Now there is a second issue that's caused a great deal of confusion, and that is TPP. http://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=3400567%2C51 That is YOUR article that states that! Stop your lying!
122 posted on 02/23/2016 4:31:36 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest
I linked YOUR ARTICLE as proof!

You don't read what is in your own articles!

123 posted on 02/23/2016 4:32:34 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest

So when Cruz says he voted to give Obama fast track, he’s lying.

You Will have to spam in lieu of answering, since the short, simple answer is damming to your case.


124 posted on 02/23/2016 4:32:42 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Yosemitest

http://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=3400567%2C51


125 posted on 02/23/2016 4:33:12 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest

Now, tell me that Cruz didn’t vote for fast track!


126 posted on 02/23/2016 4:34:11 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
WRONG !
HOW did TED CRUZ VOTE ! ? !
Click on it !
Look at the "Grouped By Vote Position", and then look at the "NAYs ---38".
And the Ninth Name down that group IS ?
Come on !
What's that NAME ?
Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.
Now let's really take a close look at HOW the Trans-Pacific Partnership was passed. (It took me a long time to track it down.)

Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.

So EVEN THOUGH the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" attached this UNPOPULAR BILL to another Bill titled "Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act", hoping that Senators would FEAR

TED CRUZ
voted
AGAINST TPP !



127 posted on 02/23/2016 4:37:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

TED CRUZ: Sure. There is a lot of confusion, and there’s unfortunately a lot of misinformation that you can get on the internet, that people are confused. So let’s explain what each of those three are. TPA is trade promotion authority. That’s also known as fast track. That is the process through which free trade agreements are negotiated. Historically since FDR, virtually every president has had fast track authority. What fast track provides is simply if a free trade agreement is negotiated, the Congress will vote on it up or down without amendment. And history has demonstrated for the last 80 years that the only way to get free trade agreements adopted is to have fast track, that if there is no fast track, free trade agreements do not end up being negotiated. TPA is what the Senate voted on recently. I voted in favor of fast track, because I support free trade. I think free trade benefits America, it creates jobs, opening markets to our farmers, to our ranchers, to our manufacturers, improves economic growth. In Texas alone, roughly three million jobs depend upon international trade. And if you support free trade, the only way history has shown free trade agreements get negotiated is with fast track. Now there is a second issue that’s caused a great deal of confusion, and that is TPP.


128 posted on 02/23/2016 4:40:27 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest

http://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=3400567%2C51


129 posted on 02/23/2016 4:41:05 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest
Cruz voted for Fast Track Authority
130 posted on 02/23/2016 4:42:11 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: bolobaby

Well, gee, why don’t we just split Free Republic in two?

We could have www.freerepublic-4cruz.com and www.freerepublic-go-trump.com.

That way the arguments and opinions of FReepers who support one candidate over another won’t offend those who may support someone different.

Call it an “Internet Safe Place”.

But seriously, all of this is getting rather embarrassing. I’m seeing people here attack one another rather than the candidates. It is a campaign, and the candidates do OPPOSE each other. It has been that way forever. Knowing this, I am not bothered with it.

But the vitriol of Trump supporters towards Cruz supporters, and vice versus is amazing this time. Maybe because Jim Robinson just banned them in the past, but now let’s them “play”, it is more apparent, but I think the bitter arguing against each other is foolish.

Trumpettes, Trumbots, Cruzbots, Cruzettes... It is all so high schoolish.


131 posted on 02/23/2016 4:42:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: fortheDeclaration
WRONG !
HOW did TED CRUZ VOTE ! ? !
Click on it !
Look at the "Grouped By Vote Position", and then look at the "NAYs ---38".
And the Ninth Name down that group IS ?
Come on !
What's that NAME ?
Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.
Now let's really take a close look at HOW the Trans-Pacific Partnership was passed. (It took me a long time to track it down.)

Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.

So EVEN THOUGH the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" attached this UNPOPULAR BILL to another Bill titled "Defending Public Safety Employees' Retirement Act", hoping that Senators would FEAR

TED CRUZ
voted
AGAINST TPP !



132 posted on 02/23/2016 4:43:21 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
We aren't discussing the TPP, we are discussing the Fast Track Authority.

Everyone knows that he voted against the TPP!

133 posted on 02/23/2016 4:43:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest

TED CRUZ: Sure. There is a lot of confusion, and there’s unfortunately a lot of misinformation that you can get on the internet, that people are confused. So let’s explain what each of those three are. TPA is trade promotion authority. That’s also known as fast track. That is the process through which free trade agreements are negotiated. Historically since FDR, virtually every president has had fast track authority. What fast track provides is simply if a free trade agreement is negotiated, the Congress will vote on it up or down without amendment. And history has demonstrated for the last 80 years that the only way to get free trade agreements adopted is to have fast track, that if there is no fast track, free trade agreements do not end up being negotiated. TPA is what the Senate voted on recently. I voted in favor of fast track, because I support free trade. I think free trade benefits America, it creates jobs, opening markets to our farmers, to our ranchers, to our manufacturers, improves economic growth. In Texas alone, roughly three million jobs depend upon international trade. And if you support free trade, the only way history has shown free trade agreements get negotiated is with fast track. Now there is a second issue that’s caused a great deal of confusion, and that is TPP.


134 posted on 02/23/2016 4:44:12 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yosemitest
Everyone knows he voted against the TPP!

Who is saying otherwise!

135 posted on 02/23/2016 4:45:40 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
WRONG !
HOW did TED CRUZ VOTE ! ? !
Click on it !
Look at the "Grouped By Vote Position", and then look at the "NAYs ---38".
And the Ninth Name down that group IS ?
Come on !
What's that NAME ?

WHY did TED CRUZ SAY he would VOTE 'NAY' ! ? !



FOLLOW THE LINKS !

It's always best to get the information from the ORIGINAL SOURCE.

Trump and Rubio supporters are RARELY HONEST.
136 posted on 02/23/2016 4:47:09 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Now let's really take a close look at HOW the Trans-Pacific Partnership was passed. (It took me a long time to track it down.)

Now look at HOW TED CRUZ VOTED on THAT VOTE.

137 posted on 02/23/2016 4:50:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; All
You know, you're really making a fool of yourself here.

Lots of other posters have pointed out what Cruz himself said he did, his exact words, yet you soldier on with your spamming tomfoolery.

Just stop. You make even the worst Cruz supporters look even worse by association.

138 posted on 02/23/2016 4:53:01 AM PST by Lakeshark
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To: Yosemitest

Rush explained the old DC Insider ploy years ago. When so called conservatives actually have the power to stop bad legislation, they vote with the Dems. Then, after the legislation is a done deal, so called conservatives make a big hoopla about voting against it—i.e.: when voting against it has become a meaningless exercise.

The only way TPP could have been stopped would have been to deny Obama fast track. Cruz gave Obama that destructively vast power...and then made a big hoopla about the meaningless votes that followed.


139 posted on 02/23/2016 4:54:43 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: grania

My big issue is the illegals. Rubio talked like a leader in the protect-America group but actually was a leader in the open-borders group. That makes him utterly untrustworthy in my eyes.

As much as I disagree with Kasich on all of his issues, at least we know where he stands. He will try to stab us in the front, not in the back.

As Milton Friedman said, “I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or it they try, they will shortly be out of office.”

If Kasich were elected, I think that the newly-conservative electorate may push him toward taking action against illegals. If Rubio were elected, we would continue to see our nation diluted.

Having said all of that, I favor Trump. Cruz is my number 2 choice.


140 posted on 02/23/2016 4:54:56 AM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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