Posted on 02/18/2016 7:14:59 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
Go Trump!
Kind to think of it, I haven't heard him ranting about tort reform.
That is the most succinct summation so far.
I think you've got it wrong there. In almost any other election I'd be for Cruz. I suspect, though could be wrong, that most Trump supporters are similar. I'm not going to accuse you of it, but I think a significantly higher percentage of those who support Cruz are more likely to insult the other side and/or see it as an either Cruz or Trump thing.
That is to say, in everything I've been reading, the Cruz supporters are more often 2-dimensional.
You say: "it stuns me that these Trump supporters can only think in two dimensions."
So I say: "When a plane looks at something three dimensional, it can only see two dimensions."
Do you understand that statement? It's not the pot calling the kettle black ... it's one step further ... it's the pot calling the kettle a pot.
I assure you I am a kettle - in all three dimensions. You on the other hand, should check the mirror.
I do not see Trump as having the depth of conviction Cruz has, but I certainly understand the desire to ride his train into the face of the GOPe and political correctness. Would like to see both of them in office less than a year from now.
We are currently, but neither permanently nor irretrievably, on divergent paths. I know where you are coming from.
If Trump can’t restore it, nobody can. America is already dead, but many of us think Trump might have the gusto to turn things around.
If we are wrong, it won’t matter. Cruz or Rubio or Anyone else will not be able to move the ball further..even if they are ‘perfect conservatives’.
We have a house and senate filled with traitors. My 3 kids are going to live in a banana republic, it sickens me that they have to live in this marxist world.
Maybe Trump will be 75% conservative and fulfill his big promises. Or maybe he will be white Obama. I think he will do the right thing because he puts American interests first and cannot be bought. I’m willing to take the gamble because the alternatives like Cruz and Rubio are just the same old song.
There's only one candidate who has a PROVEN record of swimming in the opposite direction in the GOPe stream. Just ONE. He's never been a pro-single payer health care system supporter. He's never been pro-abortion. He's never been for limitations on the 2nd Amendment. He's never been in favor of funding Planned Parenthood. He's never insulted a POW for getting captured, ridiculed a person who is physically disfigured, nor waded into bizzaro truther territory by accusing a former president of knowingly lying about such things as the Iraq war and the 9-11 attacks. His convictions weren't recently (and conveniently) arrived at. Constitutional conservatism is in his bones.
I agree with the author of this piece. Trump's not to be trusted. IMHO, a vote for Trump is even more dangerous than a vote for a Dem, because with a Dem, you already know what you're getting. With Trump, all you know is what he wants you to know at this juncture. Once he has his way with you (the American electorate), you'll find out what kind of deception you've swallowed hook, line and sinker.
There is a candidate who actually fits the description of all the things I listed above, yet he gets pass after pass after pass from the Republican voter. These are the same voters who extend not a shred of grace to any of the other Republican candidates, yet are willing to overlook all the liberal positions and downright rudeness of Trump. If anyone -- ANYONE -- would have told me in June that FReepers would be following Trump as if he were the pied piper, I'd have told them they were nuts. Now I'm the one who has to bear the embarrassment of too much optimism.
But here's what I'm saying about Cruz.
I agree with him on every single point. So, should I be president? Does the fact that he's right about everything translate into the country FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION? Because he can't do any of it without the country following. Trump is the only one who's GOTTEN THE MESSAGE ACROSS TO PEOPLE to PERSUADE THEM that some of this stuff must happen.
The country will survive ObamBernieCare. it will not survive the the border issues, which will lead not only to so so so much damage and debt, but also a permanent Democratic electorate. Both of those things end America.
I say Cruz can not move America. I say Trump already has.
Following on that, I can certainly defend Trump on some but not all of his deficiencies. But note of those deficiencies translate into him actually enacting any of that stuff.
I'm not saying I'm right about my interpretation of this point -> I just don't see Cruz supporters answering the questions: WHO CARES HOW PERFECT HE IS? CAN HE MOVE THE COUNTRY IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS PERFECTION?
I say NO, at least not yet. The country MUST move if it is to survive. Even the worst of Trump's deficiencies taken to their extreme do not threaten the survival of the country. Cruz's deficiency does - that the country won't follow him in enough numbers, that he's not persuasive enough.
He's a lawyer and a debater, he's not yet a leader. Leaders MOVE things. Leaders BUILD things. Leaders CHANGE PEOPLE'S VIEWPOINTS. Along the way - they often make messes and do things that stain their reputations.
That's what all the Cruz supporters do not seem to include in their equation: We don't win by electing the perfect man. We win if in 8 years someone has led the country to a different place, to a different outlook.
With Cruz you will always get to be right. But there is a saying "you might be right, dead right."
Pardon misspellings I'm running out the door and can't proofread!!!
Yes, of course, why would we want a self-confident, aggressive leader who can make decisions and actually can throw a baseball like a man and has successfully built businesses while knowing how to shut down start-ups that don’t work? After all we have done so well with a man who is on all sides of every issue and gives people a big smile while he has Ci-cago types go out and stab them in the back. And we could have our choice of two ineligibles who would never be able to withstand a Democrat candidate court attack.
Gotta go feed the dogs, so I did a hasty reading of your post and didn’t detect any typos. I’ll respond later as I’m very tired and very dejected tonight.
I do appreciate a THOUGHTFUL reply from a Trump supporter. Talk to you later.
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