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Dutch try and fail to stop export of dogs to Israel
INN ^ | 2/12/2016, 1:46 PM | Matt Wanderman

Posted on 02/12/2016 5:20:50 PM PST by Olog-hai

The government in the Netherlands attempted to ban the export of dogs to Israel, claiming that the IDF uses them as "weapons," but was unable to find a legal means to do so.

EU Observer reports that Minister for Foreign Trade Lilianne Ploumen investigated the possibility through the European Commission and other supervisory organizations.

EU countries can only restrict exports in certain cases, and such cases are typically decided by the EU as a whole. Ploumen had suggested to the European Commission that service dogs could fall under the dual-use regulation, which deal with objects that have both civilian and military uses. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dogs; europeanunion; eussr; fatah; gaza; hamas; hizbollah; iran; israel; lebanon; lilianneploumen; mattwanderman; nato; netherlands; rop; waronterror
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To: sparklite2

Some Palis just need biting.


21 posted on 02/12/2016 6:10:18 PM PST by Paladin2 (w)
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To: sparklite2

Mohammed probably hated dogs because they guarded the caravans and villages he wanted to raid.


22 posted on 02/12/2016 6:20:30 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

And they’re good judges of character as well. I suspect they didn’t like him very much either.


23 posted on 02/12/2016 6:40:18 PM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: Olog-hai

Muslims don’t like dogs. If the Israelis are importing them from the Netherlands, it’s probably a breed that’s very good at doing certain tasks — sniffing out explosives for example. It is just too bad the antisemitic slugs in the Netherlands government lost this one. The dogs will be put to good use by the IDF.


24 posted on 02/12/2016 6:41:07 PM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: sparklite2

some of whom have bitten Palestinians.
== == ==

What’s the problem? Palestinians are Halal.


25 posted on 02/12/2016 6:50:40 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (As always, /s is implicitly assumed. Unless explicitly labled /not s. Saves keystrokes.)
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Lets fill'er up folks...
26 posted on 02/12/2016 7:07:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: Olog-hai

Looks like the Dutch are still conducting “Operation Anne Frank”. And this from a country that is the drug-smuggling center of Europe, has legalized prostitution, and has had one of their famous painters assassinated in the streets.

I think Hitler won much of Europe even in death!


27 posted on 02/12/2016 7:14:17 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Note to the Dutch:

Keep offending God by persecuting the Jews, and God will reward you by sending you more muslims...


28 posted on 02/12/2016 7:43:10 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: sparklite2
Breeding German shepherds, Belgium Malinois, Dutch shepherds, etc. for police and military use is actually harder than you think. A lot of American bred dogs don't have the high prey drives that the K9 and military needs. There are also issues with health.
29 posted on 02/12/2016 7:47:32 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: Abby4116

If they were, I still fail to see an issue. I guess my sympathy for Palestinians isn’t very high heh.


30 posted on 02/12/2016 8:40:02 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: chrisinoc

“Breeding German shepherds, Belgium Malinois, Dutch shepherds, etc. for police and military use is actually harder than you think. A lot of American bred dogs don’t have the high prey drives that the K9 and military needs. There are also issues with health.”

= = = = =

Breeding mostly single-use dogs for the military and police is a loosing proposition for a breeder.

As a breeder, you cannot survive as a breeding kennel trying to exclusively breed dogs for sale to the military and police; and at the same time breed to the international standard, to produce well-balanced, all-round dogs. Due to the numerous health, temperament, and training requirements to qualify to sell dogs to the military or police, most dogs you breed will not be suitable for various reasons; and then you are stuck with dogs that are not suitable as pets to normal people and families. Additionally, the military and the police just do not pay enough for what they want. You will spend more money on qualifying a dog for sale to the the military than you will recoup on the actual sale.

It is generally cheaper for them to go into Europe and buy what they need, as they are much more available (numbers-wise) and cheaper than similar quality dogs in the U.S. I hate to state this, but it is true: most military and police dogs (especially if they were purchased in Europe) are dogs that do not meet breed standards, in one or more ways, and cannot qualify as a breeding dog and/or a show prospect. Hence, these dogs are of little use to breeders and others; they are essentially castoffs. This is especially true in Europe. Additionally, there are just more dogs in Europe than in the US: a lot more. It is an industry there, and a hobby here.

The lack of American-bred dogs in the military or police has very little to do with “lack of drive” or health issues of American dogs, and everything to do with economics and scale. (And when I say American dogs here, I am referring to American-bred dogs from European bloodlines, not the “AKC” German Shepherd Dog familiar to Westminster Show viewers.)


31 posted on 02/12/2016 8:54:38 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
"Anne Frank and her whole family? They're hiding upstairs in this building!" [whole crowd points]

32 posted on 02/13/2016 4:09:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: sparklite2
Any excuse to bash Israel, true or not.

Yeah, my guess too.

33 posted on 02/13/2016 9:19:11 AM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay is like paying ransom to terrorists - incentivized insanity.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

lol, ok the was funny


34 posted on 02/13/2016 11:41:46 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: LaRueLaDue

Most of the Malinois and Dutch Shepherds in use by police and military all over the world go through brokers in Holland. This includes the Mal sleeping on my lap at the moment. Israel, I’m sure uses their dogs just as does the rest of the world, probably Palestinians want the dogs to stay out of Israel for the obvious reasons, it would facilitate their terrorism. Importing explosive detection dogs makes their job more difficult.


35 posted on 02/13/2016 1:47:10 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: nobamanomore

Yeah, you are right on that. Most everyone I know that has Mals and Dutch Shepherds get them from Europe. Not a lot of breeders in the U.S. But, as you might have guessed, I am a GSD person, (European lines of course!) and don’t know a whole lot about the world of Mals and DSs.

I have a good friend in Germany that works for one of the larger city police departments purchasing and training dogs for them. He mainly works on what he calls “terrorist dogs”. These are mostly Mals that they train to kill and or take out armed terrorists: silently, stealthily and quickly. I have been around working dogs since the mid ‘80s, and these dogs are literally frightening to be around. They are NOT what most people think of as working dogs. They do one thing, and do it well, and that is all they are expected and trained to do.


36 posted on 02/13/2016 4:41:24 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

I also have had working dogs since the 80’s, mostly GSD, and one really nice old school Dobe. The Malinois (and DS) has been far the easiest to train, due to the crazy drives! Mine, as with a lot of them, is very social and loves kids, but very protective and very strong in bitework. They do have an unusual combination of being safe around strangers and children combined with strong protection.


37 posted on 02/13/2016 5:50:23 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: LaRueLaDue

I also have had working dogs since the 80’s, mostly GSD, and one really nice old school Dobe. The Malinois (and DS) has been far the easiest to train, due to the crazy drives! Mine, as with a lot of them, is very social and loves kids, but very protective and very strong in bitework. They do have an unusual combination of being safe around strangers and children combined with strong protection.


38 posted on 02/13/2016 5:52:40 PM PST by nobamanomore
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