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Trump’s Eminent Disdain Donald is wrong about the Keystone Pipeline and property rights.
The Wall Street Journal ^ | February 10, 2016 | Unknown

Posted on 02/11/2016 6:15:22 PM PST by House Atreides

You can't build a real estate empire unless government helps you snatch private property, or so says Donald Trump, who routinely defends eminent domain as an inevitable business reality. Maybe he needs broader business experience.

In Saturday's Republican debate, Mr. Trump fielded a question about eminent domain and had a ready answer. "You need eminent domain," Mr. Trump said. "A lot of the big conservatives that tell me how conservative they are," they "all want the Keystone Pipeline. The Keystone Pipeline, without eminent domain, it wouldn't go 10 feet, OK?"

Not OK, or accurate. In the decade since TransCanada proposed the pipeline system, which includes the Keystone XL route President Obama rejected last year, the company says it has negotiated voluntary easements with 96% of 2,600 landowners across 3,000 miles and nine states. That includes 100% of landowners on the Keystone XL path in Montana and South Dakota, and 91% in Nebraska. TransCanada has on rare occasion turned to eminent domain, a process that usually involves a panel of experts determining fair compensation.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: betterdeal4trump; eminentdomain; pipelinevscasino; publicvsprivate; trump; trump4himself; trumpvalues
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1 posted on 02/11/2016 6:15:22 PM PST by House Atreides
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Wow. WSJ suddenly in favor of private property rights?

Next, they'll come out against amnesty. < /S >

2 posted on 02/11/2016 6:17:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: House Atreides

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Looks like the Wall Street Journal confiscated the rest of the article. Hope the author got fair market value!


3 posted on 02/11/2016 6:17:55 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet
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To: House Atreides

Trump is putting the Constitution last and his business first.


4 posted on 02/11/2016 6:20:01 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: House Atreides

So private agreements were negotiated. If the pipeline is built, the threat of eminent domain will face each landowner. So negotiating a better deal now makes sense. But if eminent domain did not exist, it is a lot more likely that there would be hold-outs. From the small part of it that I read, the article does not prove what it purports to.


5 posted on 02/11/2016 6:21:52 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51

That’s all well and good to say when its the other guy.


6 posted on 02/11/2016 6:23:56 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: House Atreides
Don't have access to the entire article but what you excerpted shows the eminent domain was used.

Also, 'voluntary easement' is interesting. I'm assuming they are compensated for the easement as the easement can devalue their land and typically the easement runs with the land and should be a permanent easement.

There is actually case law where, depending on the type of sale, the easement could be removed and the landowner could remove the pipeline from their property.

Interesting arrangement.

7 posted on 02/11/2016 6:23:56 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: House Atreides

God, this CRAP is getting old. Cruzers are raving nuts...


8 posted on 02/11/2016 6:28:15 PM PST by heights
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To: House Atreides

Got Trump through the debate...that’s how one WINS!


9 posted on 02/11/2016 6:28:27 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Stingray51

That’s because “the article” has an agenda. It’s to satisfy Tom Donahue and the Chamber of Cronies.


10 posted on 02/11/2016 6:31:04 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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To: Stingray51

Hooray!

I found a reader who has reading comprehension!

Eminent domain is like wo many other things. It gives one a choice between two paths.

Negotiate or litigate.

So 96% negotiated rather than litigate.

And people who comprehend only that which they wish to see will always be with us and are best ignored.


11 posted on 02/11/2016 6:34:09 PM PST by old curmudgeon (.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

During a recent battle with Big Wind, we learned that the property owners signing the leases were under a gag order to keep others from knowing what the lease agreements were.

A prominent farmer in our area told me that he wanted no wind turbines on his properties, but was willing to lease them a 60 foot easement across the back of his farm for underground transmission lines.

When his lawyer got to looking over the lease agreement, he found that doing so would grant the developer partial control over the entire farm, not just the 60 feet, should they so choose.

He got it changed, and then moved miles away from the project


12 posted on 02/11/2016 6:37:44 PM PST by digger48
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To: House Atreides

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268562-trump-bush-family-used-eminent-domain-to-build-a-baseball


13 posted on 02/11/2016 6:41:10 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ("The Force Awakens"!!! TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP;TRUMP!!! 100%)
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To: digger48
lease them a 60 foot easement across the back of his farm for underground transmission lines.

Certainly dangerous given that Big Wind could likely seek adverse possession in the courts if you wanted out of the lease, legally. A landowner would be buried by the attorneys and would have no choice but to renew.

14 posted on 02/11/2016 6:41:38 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: House Atreides

A shame we can’t read the article without subscribing.


15 posted on 02/11/2016 6:42:44 PM PST by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Also a concern of our group, was the possibility that in the future, could government step in and use Eminent Domain to force communities to host Industrial Wind Turbines?

This is not the house of the man I mentioned, but the house of another non-leaseholder I know who got the hell out of Dodge and took a loss on what he thought would be the house he and his wife would live the rest of their lives in.

 photo Whitcamperswindturbine.png

That 500 foot tall Monument to Gaia is actually 1200' from their house.

16 posted on 02/11/2016 6:49:37 PM PST by digger48
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TransCanada has on rare occasion turned to eminent domain, a process that usually involves a panel of experts determining fair compensation.

So TransCanada Corp used eminent domain. So Trump is right.

17 posted on 02/11/2016 6:53:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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That 500 foot tall Monument to Gaia is actually 1200' from their house.

Looks like a real nice property. Too bad it took a big hit on value.

18 posted on 02/11/2016 6:53:46 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

His son’s former nice new house is just out of the picture to the right.


19 posted on 02/11/2016 7:02:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I dug that pond for them in the foreground/


20 posted on 02/11/2016 7:04:08 PM PST by digger48
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