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Sanders And Trump Are The Same Totalitarian Candidate
The Daily Wire ^ | February 10, 2016 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/11/2016 7:35:47 AM PST by newgeezer

On the surface, there's not much in common between New Hampshire GOP primary winner Donald Trump and Democratic primary winner Bernie Sanders. Trump is a billionaire businessman; Sanders is a career politician. Trump's personal favorability is the lowest of all candidates on either side; Sanders' is the highest. But the impulse that drove New Hampshire voters to the polls for Sanders is the same as the impulse that drove them to the polls for Trump: the desire for a powerful authority figure to fix everything using the power of government. In fact, before the New Hampshire primary, CNN reported, "Because independents can register as ‘undeclared' in New Hampshire and then vote in either party's primary, the Vermont senator's campaign has noted some of these voters are wavering between Sanders and Trump."

There's a reason for the confusion: Trump and Sanders aren't that different on policy. Really.

They're both anti-establishment candidates who bash Wall Street. Here's Trump from his victory speech last night:

Here's Sanders from his victory speech last night: Trump and Sanders are on the same page on trade, which they see as a zero sum game at which America is losing. Sanders has described trade with China as "catastrophic" for our economy. Days ago, Trump admitted that he and Sanders mirror each other on the topic: "The one thing we very much agree on is trade. We both agree that we are getting ripped off by China, by Japan, by Mexico, everyone we do business with."

Both Trump and Sanders want to do away with Obamacare in favor of a more universal system. Trump has been extraordinarily unclear on what he wants to replace Obamacare, but he vows that he'll stop the "insurance companies…getting rich on Obamacare" and ensure "we're going to take care of the people on the street dying."

Here's Sanders last night:

Both Sanders and Trump vow to enshrine programs like Medicare and Social Security. Here's Trump last year: Here's Sanders last night: And while Trump has run on the basis of a uniquely strict anti-illegal immigration policy, Sanders has historically opposed illegal immigration on the basis of driving down American wages: "Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first - not wealthy globetrotting donors." This is straight from the Trump playbook.

On foreign policy, too, Trump and Sanders sound alike. Here's Trump on the Iraq war from the last debate:

Back in October, Trump said we should let Russia handle ISIS, and added that he wanted to cut military spending. Here's Sanders from his speech last night: So why are Trump and Sanders soaring? Because they both represent a reaction to the corruption and entitlement culture of Washington D.C. - and both of those reactions are anti-democratic. Neither candidate ever talks about the proper role of government. They just talk about how they'll increase its power to use it for their own purposes.

That's what many of their supporters want. Many Trump supporters frequently comment that he "wins," that he will "win" for America, that he's capable of "making deals," that he's not beholden to anyone or anything. Sanders supporters say the same thing.

Many Trump supporters - the ones who believe he is a transformational figure - ignore the fact that Trump won't change the nature of government in any real way. They're looking for a singular authoritarian solution to the problems of their lives. They believe it takes a power broker to stop the power brokers. Hand Trump the ring of government power, and watch what he can do! He may not cast it into the fiery chasm from whence it came, but he'll use it to fight Mordor sometimes.

Sanders' supporters also object to a corrupt government - but they think that more government is the solution. They think the government is bought and paid for by outside parties, and they want an honest socialist dictator in charge to clean house. They want a Hugo Chavez to ride in on the wind and use the power of government to punish their enemies. Sanders may proclaim that his motivating feeling is hope, but the real motivation behind his campaign is bitter jealousy and petty vengefulness.

These are the wages of big government and an unendingly powerful executive branch. Too many people gain too much by its existence to do away with it; too many people want to control the guns and the money to back a true reformer. Every four years we now pick our dictator. It's just a question of whether that dictator does the stuff you want, or whether you're his target.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 02/11/2016 7:35:47 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

Oh, this’ll fire ‘em up! Flame on ladies!


2 posted on 02/11/2016 7:37:17 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: newgeezer

Hmm seems the Establishment has a new talking point. Third or 4th article today pushing this attack lie

This is why the Political Media Establishment is in such trouble. Have ruining everything they touched for almost 3 decades, instead of looking in the mirror, they want to squeal hysterically at the voters riotous anger at the DC Political/Media/Business machines defiantly corrupt, arrogantly incompetent, intransigence


3 posted on 02/11/2016 7:39:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: newgeezer

Both out for blood.

There’s a huge amount of blood lust in the liberal pacifist peace-peace camp.

Trump’s on the same page from the Government must maintain order side.


4 posted on 02/11/2016 7:39:06 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: newgeezer

Exactly, I will never vote for either.


5 posted on 02/11/2016 7:39:29 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: newgeezer

This could be written by the creator of the universe and it would still be dismissed by the Trump true believers.


6 posted on 02/11/2016 7:39:49 AM PST by woofie
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To: newgeezer
Comparison of Sander's Tax Policy vs. Trump's
http://taxfoundation.org/comparing-2016-presidential-tax-reform-proposals

Trump's Tax Policy in detail:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/2000560-an-analysis-of-donald-trumps-tax-plan.pdf

Summary:
Trump is the Anti-Sanders. Period!!

7 posted on 02/11/2016 7:40:07 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: newgeezer
Trump people be like...

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8 posted on 02/11/2016 7:41:51 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: woofie

I love that the mindless snarks for Cruz, who never bother to put any thought into any post, want to rail about “True believers”

Maybe if you tried posting some thoughtful commentary, instead of your daily dose of infantile snarling, people might take your statements seriously on this topic


9 posted on 02/11/2016 7:42:00 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: newgeezer

Thanks for posting that. You’ll get a lot of invective, but there is an awful lot of truth in that article.


10 posted on 02/11/2016 7:42:02 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: newgeezer

They could not be farther apart. One is a communist and one is a capitalist. Best election evah.

Pray America wakes


11 posted on 02/11/2016 7:42:45 AM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: exnavy

As if they are the same. Nice Alinsky-style argument.


12 posted on 02/11/2016 7:43:21 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: newgeezer

Some of this crap defies rationality and coherency. It’s an insult to intelligence.

It takes a tightly blindered opinionated pack mule to write a highly subjective article like that.


13 posted on 02/11/2016 7:44:31 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: MNJohnnie
You can dismiss that as an "Establishment talking point" if you wish, but there have been people here making many of those same arguments before these recent articles appeared. And dismissing them as "talking points" doesn't address the substance.

I admit I'm not going to vote for Trump in the primary. My question is whether I can stomach voting for him in the general election, and dismissing concerns as "talking points" isn't likely to convince any of us that are on the fence.

14 posted on 02/11/2016 7:48:40 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MNJohnnie

Hmm seems the Establishment has a new talking point. Third or 4th article today pushing this attack lie


Not new. Just a variation on the Trump is a liberal smear.


15 posted on 02/11/2016 7:48:55 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: MNJohnnie
Yes, the media has a new talking point. Actually, it is a variation of their talking points. On FR during the last election posters, who falsely claimed to be conservatives, kept repeating that Romney was no better, even worse, than Obama. Their goal apparently was to discourage those voting against Obama.

They are back now saying this nonsense about Trump. They probably would say this about any frontrunner who opposes amnesty. I noticed that some of the same ones keep attacking anybody who effectively talks against amnesty.

16 posted on 02/11/2016 7:49:27 AM PST by Jane Austen (Say no to a Bush Dynasty!)
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To: bray
They could not be farther apart. One is a communist and one is a capitalist

This is not a definitive argument; one could say the two are not mutually exclusive. George Soros is a communist; George Soros is a capitalist.

You know; revolution by other means...

17 posted on 02/11/2016 7:49:41 AM PST by stormhill
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To: dynoman
It takes a tightly blindered opinionated pack mule to write a highly subjective article like that.

Of course it's subjective. That is supposed to be a bad thing?

Some of this crap defies rationality and coherency. It’s an insult to intelligence.

Author sets Trump and Sanders quotes side by side. That is quite rational. Please cite an example of incoherence. Let's figure it out.

18 posted on 02/11/2016 7:50:08 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: bray
They could not be farther apart. One is a communist and one is a capitalist.

So what? George Soros is a capitalist. Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance is a capitalist, and both of them support radical leftist policies.

The mere fact that someone makes their fortune as a capitalist doesn't mean they can't be a leftist.

19 posted on 02/11/2016 7:53:17 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: newgeezer

No they are not the same.

They are both populists, but they are selling different products.

Leftists have all but destroyed the Republic, it isn’t surprising that their opposition eventually stops trying to work within the system.

Awkward point: Too late to work within the system. Too early to start shooting.


20 posted on 02/11/2016 7:54:01 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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