Trump puts a price on his wall: It would cost Mexico $8 billion

msnbc.com ^ | 2/9/2016 | Anna Brand

[rktman]

Hall noted that just yesterday, the former president of Mexico called Trump's idea for a wall "stupid," adding that "we are not going to pay any single cent." Probing how he plans to get Mexico to pay for his wall, Trump responded, "Mexico makes a fortune. Mexico is going to pay. And I heard he said that we will not pay. Guess what? The wall just got higher."

[Gaffer]

He can, however, impose a fee. Don’t tell me we can’t take the money. Not with all this ObamaCare and HHS “at the Secretary’s discretion” horsesh!t going on.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

It doesn't make sense. But people without even a passing acquaintance with the law wave away such objections with things like "well, look at what Obama did via executive order!"

When people's opinions are based on an ignorance of the relevant facts, reasoned discussion is impossible.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

What is the statutory authority for him to impose such a fee?

[rktman]

LOL! Well, has the epa done their environmental impact study yet? That would probably take at least 10 years.

[Gaffer]

Play your silly game then. Where have you been these last 7 years? Statutes?

[NCLaw441]

I wonder how much financial aid we give to Mexico, directly and otherwise. Hold back $8 billion of that and the fence is paid for. Still our money, but at least not given to Mexico.

[HomerBohn]

Mexico should pick up the tab of the welfare costs, prison costs, damages, and health care costs of all those who crossed the southern border illegally.

Not only for Mexican citizens, but for those who received a pass to cross Mexico to get here.

If we get static, then we should withdraw our ambassador, kick theirs out of the country and board up their embassy.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I'd also point out that Obamacare was written in such a way as to give the Secretary enormous discretion on a bunch of things. But even there, the Secretary cannot impose a fee that is not authorized by the statute. What they've done is not enforce some things that are authorized (or sometimes even required) the statute.

[Stegall Tx]

My first edict (Obama-style) would be to assess a transfer tax ... to anyone in Mexico a 10% ... ‘reparations’ tax.

And my first move (Constitutional capitalist-style) would be to set up a shop where anyone can forward money to my friends in Canada who will then forward the proceeds to their destination in Mexico for a 9.5% fee.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Mexico receives about $400M a year in foreign aid, so that’s about 5% of what Trump claims the cost will be. And, you’d still need legislation authorizing the money to be spent here rather than in Mexico.

[Gaffer]

And Obamacare is not a tax, but it IS, per USSC CJ Roberts’ edict....

My point is that ‘law’, authority, and application are whatever those in power say it is. There are plenty of legal beagles that can figure out the mechanics. You still believe in the rule of law (and order) - an antiquated thought given what we’ve endured these last 7 years and inept aegis 8 years before that, and potentially with Hillary Clinton for another 4 years.

We will fall or survive on what happens with these illegals and what follows afterwards. You can choose to staidly stand of points of order, or you can do what your country needs you (and everyone needs to do). Over and done.

[TexasFreeper2009]

It may be a lie, but it’s currently a fact.

[Stegall Tx]

You can choose to staidly stand of points of order, or you can do what your country needs you (and everyone needs to do). Over and done.

This country is so ready for a dictator. Well, at least the trains will run on time.

[Sgt_Schultze]

[Gaffer]

Spoken like a true capitalist. I would, however, require that you also pay a destination tax as well. Perhaps an end-destination certification with prison term penalties?

[zek157]

I read yesterday that Mexico now makes more on remittances than from the oil industry.

1st Request Mexico fund the fence.

2nd pass draconian laws on American business to hiring illegals and people using fake SSNs. Exempt farm workers, or provide a temporary permit.

3rd tax remittances to Mexico 75%. Pass draconian laws seizing all assets of companies that use 3rd countries to wire money to Mexico.

[Gaffer]

What do you mean “ready for”. We already have one. In fact, we have 535 additional little dictators with fiefdoms all their own.

[Gaffer]

How do you think Western Union and Wells Fargo got so beefy they could buy all those banks they’ve bought? Just look at them little 2 Way satellite dishes on the local Stop-Gas-n’Puke next time you pass by.

You can tell them because of the slightly larger dish with the honking big transmitter/receiver feed they have on them.

Lots and lotsa damn money goin on there.

[Mamzelle]

TAX REMITTANCES!!! Yeah. Easy peasy. Remittances are more than oil in Mexico.

[econjack]

I still think it’s cheaper to build towers every two miles across our southern flank and put a Marine sniper in each with Rules of Engagement of “shoot-to-wound”. As they get wounded, tattoo a big “II” (Illegal Immigrant) on their forehead and send them back. If a Marine sees II on a target, the rule of engagement change. I think that would cost less.