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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

And Obamacare is not a tax, but it IS, per USSC CJ Roberts’ edict....

My point is that ‘law’, authority, and application are whatever those in power say it is. There are plenty of legal beagles that can figure out the mechanics. You still believe in the rule of law (and order) - an antiquated thought given what we’ve endured these last 7 years and inept aegis 8 years before that, and potentially with Hillary Clinton for another 4 years.

We will fall or survive on what happens with these illegals and what follows afterwards. You can choose to staidly stand of points of order, or you can do what your country needs you (and everyone needs to do). Over and done.


31 posted on 02/10/2016 6:34:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
You can choose to staidly stand of points of order, or you can do what your country needs you (and everyone needs to do). Over and done.

This country is so ready for a dictator. Well, at least the trains will run on time.

33 posted on 02/10/2016 6:37:35 AM PST by Stegall Tx (Why are we in this handbasket, and why is it getting so warm? (stolen tagline))
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And Obamacare is not a tax, but it IS, per USSC CJ Roberts’ edict....

That wasn't about whether or not people had to pay. It was simply about what to call it. That tax/penalty was contained in the statute. This "fee" to build a wall has no statutory basis at all.

My point is that ‘law’, authority, and application are whatever those in power say it is. There are plenty of legal beagles that can figure out the mechanics.

No, the law is whatever the Supreme Court says it is, not whatever the President says it is. Did you notice that just yesterday, the Supreme Court tossed out Obama's carbon emission regs? Probably not would be my guess....

Okay, did you at least notice that the courts have stopped enforcement of Obama's most recent attempt to do an end run around the immigration laws? Stopped it dead in its tracks.

So the assumption by so many here that Trump can just wave his hands to implement the stuff he wants his wrong. The same SCOTUS that has stopped some of Obama's stuff will take about half a second to affirm a lower court ruling striking down these fees and stuff that lack any statutory basis.

Despite a lot of popular misconceptions, "legal beagles" can't simply invent "mechanics" to overcome Court objections. Though it obviously makes a lot of folks feel good to imagine they can. That "fee" idea is a 9-0 loser at SCOTUS.

41 posted on 02/10/2016 7:00:06 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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