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Donald Trump: New Hampshire Drug Epidemic
Facebook ^ | 2/7/2016 | Donald Trump

Posted on 02/07/2016 8:08:12 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: Neu Pragmatist; GunRunner

Gunrunner is a simpleton who doesn’t pay attention.


21 posted on 02/07/2016 11:37:56 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Mr Rogers
Yeah. Trump will "create borders and the drugs will stop pouring in". In spite of the financial incentive to smuggle them.

I sure wish life was that simple.

Of course it is not that simple.

My understanding is that among illegal drugs (not counting alcohol and tobacco which are legal drugs), Marijuana is still the most popular and most widely used illegal drug in America. Following that, it is illegal use of Rx drugs like Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Xanax, Codeine (often taken as "Drank") and even Ritalin and Adderall. There is also K2/Spice which is a "synthetic" marijuana and Methamphetamine (Meth). There is an epidemic of Heroin abuse and way too many overdose deaths, mostly among middle and upper middle class white kids.

There is no question that marijuana, cocaine, methamphetamine and heroin do come across our southern border, but not all do. Meth for example is manufacture all over the US. And Heroin still makes its way to the US via Afghanistan and Turkey.

Building a wall on our southern border unfortunately will not stop drug abuse. Drug addicts and their suppliers will just find other drugs and other routes and other sources.

I will "create borders" and the drugs will stop pouring in.

"Create" borders? Perhaps he should have said "enforce" borders. Or maybe he really does think he can create brand new ones.

"And the people that are in trouble, the people that are addicted, we're going to work with them and try and make them better. And we will make them better,"

How is Trump going to do that?

Donald Trump: Obamacare's going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what's going on with premiums where they're up 40, 50, 55 percent.

Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

Donald Trump: There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private. But-"

Scott Pelley: Universal health care.

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

Donald Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably-

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

Trump was equally forthcoming about his plans to raise taxes on the wealthy:

Scott Pelley: Revolution is easy, governing is hard and what I'd like to get to is how you intend to govern the country if you are elected president. What's your tax plan?

Donald Trump: It's a substantial reduction for the middle-income people. Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it'll be a great incentive for corporations.

Scott Pelley: Who are you going to raise taxes on?

Donald Trump: If you look at actually raise, some very wealthy are going to be raised. Some people that are getting unfair deductions are going to be raised. But overall it's going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we're going to take in the same or more money. And I think we're going to have something that's going to be spectacular.

Scott Pelley: But Republicans don't raise taxes.

Donald Trump: Well, we're not raising taxes.

Scott Pelley: What kind of Republican are you?

Donald Trump: I mean the only, well, I'm a pretty good Republican. But, I will tell you this, I do have some differences. I don't want to have certain people on Wall Street getting away with paying no tax.

Typical Trump hyperbole and wealth distribution schemes.

22 posted on 02/08/2016 1:18:40 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Mr Rogers

Trump may recognize a problem but the focus is upon the wrong world.

It is our rightful place to refuse, even more than people bent on wrongdoing, angels bent on wrongdoing. I.e. we need a wall against hell, and this will only be built by God at our recognition of the need and our petition unto Him.

Take care of the hell problem and then you take care of the drug problem and a whole heap of other problems too.


23 posted on 02/08/2016 2:16:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: V K Lee

My guess: pressure will push production onshore again. We will have less of other kinds of problems, but this one will prove tougher.


24 posted on 02/08/2016 2:17:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: V K Lee

Meaning, demand pressure, which depends on other factors.

America was formulated to not be a police state due to belief that humans could achieve a tolerably good moral status without one. The only option known by the founders was that of bible belief, meaning in the end belief in the God of the bible. “No king but Jesus.”

Throwing that away means disaster. It is still only a prayer away from recovery. But what kind of trial will it take to move us back to that?


25 posted on 02/08/2016 2:22:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: V K Lee

But yet thinking. Part of what may be egging on the problem is the traffic in these interlopers. People carry demons along with themselves sometimes. A small handful of Christians are helping to defuse the problem, but the scope is overwhelming.

They may not push drugs directly so much as carry demons that encourage ungodly attitudes.


26 posted on 02/08/2016 2:33:31 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Taxation has always entailed a game of just whom are you going to tax, once the bare institution is accepted. I’d want to see the overall scheme before jumping to too many conclusions about it.

A plan that spreads the pain more evenly is probably better than one that is a scapegoating scheme.


27 posted on 02/08/2016 2:37:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GunRunner
Oh god, seriously? The FedGov can't even keep drugs out of prisons.

There's a difference between "can't" and "won't".... "Can't" is just the excuse they use for neglecting their jobs.

28 posted on 02/08/2016 4:39:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: GunRunner
Oh god, seriously? The FedGov can't even keep drugs out of prisons.

There's a difference between "can't" and "won't".... "Can't" is just the excuse they use for neglecting their jobs.

29 posted on 02/08/2016 4:39:13 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Yeah. Trump will “create borders and the drugs will stop pouring in”. In spite of the financial incentive to smuggle them.

I sure wish life was that simple.”

Bank vaults and simple precautions certainly do a lot to curb bank robberies.


30 posted on 02/08/2016 5:43:40 AM PST by odawg
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To: GunRunner

...but Trump doesn’t even know what the problem is.”

You may not either. There is a problem with drugs pouring across the border with Mexico. It is only common sense to try to stem the flow and a diminished flow decreases access. The drugs that enter prisons come from Mexico.


31 posted on 02/08/2016 5:47:05 AM PST by odawg
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To: HiTech RedNeck

U may be right. Demons are found everywhere, even in the most obscure locations. Some are full blown and others still growing. No matter the size, they are out there hiding in the shadows awaiting their strike.


32 posted on 02/08/2016 5:52:37 AM PST by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: RC one
If we outlawed abortion, there would still be an incentive for abortions and they would still occur. should we abandon that fight as well then? Hell, there's a financial incentive for theft. let's just make that legal too since outlawing theft clearly hasn't prevented theft.

Abortion and theft are violations of rights - drug use is not. And according to the FBI, 19% of property-crime cases get solved - whereas the percentage of drug law violations that even get detected is probably a thousand times smaller.

33 posted on 02/08/2016 7:12:41 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Fai Mao
Imperial China stopped the opium trade in the late 19th century.

Me, I prefer the limited government and individual liberties our Founding Fathers fought and died for - but then, I'm an American conservative.

34 posted on 02/08/2016 7:15:18 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: GunRunner
"The heroin epidemic is the result of the FedGov cracking down on prescription opioids, which are tightly controlled."

That's part of it. Widespread availability of heroin and the lack of availability of cocaine started many years ago.

35 posted on 02/08/2016 7:41:37 AM PST by moehoward
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To: ConservingFreedom
Abortion and theft are violations of rights - drug use is not.

BS. My right as a tax payer are violated when I have to support millions of non-functional drug addicts and alcoholics through tax payer funded public assistance programs. So go ahead and end all forms of welfare and then I'll reconsider my opinion.

36 posted on 02/08/2016 7:44:29 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one
Abortion and theft are violations of rights - drug use is not.

BS. My right as a tax payer are violated when I have to support millions of non-functional drug addicts and alcoholics

It's the forced support, not the alcohol or other drug use, that violates your rights. What do you favor doing about the alcoholics you're made to support?

37 posted on 02/08/2016 7:47:11 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: moehoward
Widespread availability of heroin and the lack of availability of cocaine started many years ago.

What does cocaine have to do with opioid addiction? They're two completely different kinds of narcotics. Nobody nurses a Vicodin addiction by using coke.

38 posted on 02/08/2016 8:16:37 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: odawg
The drugs that enter prisons come from Mexico.

It doesn't matter. People are turning to heroin because of the crackdown on availability of prescription opioids. The problem isn't an abundance of heroin coming from the south of the border, it's the people who are addicted to opiates in the first place.

Even if you were able to cut down on the supply of only one of the alternatives (street heroin), you haven't made a dent in the problem, or the underlying issue.

Most heroin comes from Asia, and there's plenty of other avenues they'll use to get it here even if you were to slow border traffic.

39 posted on 02/08/2016 8:23:19 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: nopardons
Though many people laughed, the "JUST SAY NO" campaign DID work.

Just Say No and the Drug War are two different things.

The Drug War is a 100% complete failure on every conceivable level, and contributes to two of the worst scourges in the US; an overbearing FedGov who use it as an excuse to meddle in everything, and violent street crime which is often drug related.

40 posted on 02/08/2016 8:28:43 AM PST by GunRunner
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