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Trump Desperately Trying to Hide the Shrinking Size of his Crowds
Red State ^ | February 4, 2016 | Leon H. Wolf

Posted on 02/04/2016 11:55:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

There's a reason why Donald Trump is taking his loss in Iowa so hard - it's been devastating to his national standing. His standing in the polls might already be falling like a rock, and now it appears that the rolling concert tour that was his national campaign might be coming to an end. Now comes pretty convincing evidence that his crowds are shrinking, and he's trying to hide it (poorly).

Trump was in Little Rock last night, and he tweeted a picture that seemed to show a typical Trump full house, and that specifically claimed that the crowd was a "record" and that it was "12K."

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

THANK YOU to everyone in Little Rock, Arkansas tonight! A record crowd of 12K. #Trump2016https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10156603612740725:0 .. 8:31 PM - 3 Feb 2016 Little Rock, AR, United States

The problem, as IJ Review notes, is that the total capacity for the arena where Trump held this event, including floor capacity, is 10,195. So in order for this count to be accurate, this would truly have been an absolutely astounding overflow crowd. The only problem is, it wasn't. Media was there at the event, and documented how, during Trump's speech, large sections of the seating were completely empty and the floor was at most half full.

Here is video that was taken during the event, you can clearly hear that Trump is speaking, and the arena looks at least half empty.

As the Daily Mail notes, Trump at one point claimed that the Fire Marshal said it was a record and they were turning people away. Trump asked the Fire Marshal to come up on stage and confirm it for the benefit of the media, and the "Fire Marshal" allegedly obliged. The only problem is that the man who came on stage was not the fire marshal, but rather the general manager of the state fair.

Of course, the bigger question might well be, what the heck is Donald Trump doing in Arkansas in the first place? Is he really so sure that he will win New Hampshire that he has no concern over New Hampshire's historically late break? Or the optics of being off across the rest of the country while the rest of the field is camped in state?


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To: Red Steel

I don’t believe anyone on this forum is actually predicting a Cruz victory in New Hampshire. Trump on the other hand is expected to win handily in the geographically friendly state. The problem for Trump is his inability to manage expectations, as this requires a level of maturity on his part. Consequently, even if he does manage to win NH, if it isn’t by the universally expected large margin he will have lost the news cycle to the 2nd place candidate.


201 posted on 02/04/2016 12:58:14 PM PST by Techjock
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To: over3Owithabrain

Go up to the thread way above on conformation that Cruz volunteers knew they were, uh, ly—not being truthful about Carson suspending his campaign, so that Iowans should vote for Count Chocula.
One after another attempt by these people to try and change the subject to Trump, or to another topic one, Benghazi of all things ... it’s like arguing with a litter of Irish setters.


202 posted on 02/04/2016 1:00:27 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Back to the Leon hate train - you are so sad.

Don’t you guys always say it’s the crowd size that matters?
Why does lil Leon concern himself with such trivia?

ILLEGALS BABY - that’s where it’s at!
Somehow cw I think you’re delighted with the Rubio train that’s going to plow through everything.


203 posted on 02/04/2016 1:01:36 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

sure...whatever you say


204 posted on 02/04/2016 1:02:36 PM PST by chasio649 (The GOPe can never seem to remember who brought them to the dance)
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To: bolobaby

Do ANY of you Trump haters live anywhere near illegals or are you ALL in some magic bubble?

Glad Rubio’s on your list, GOPe chump - ILLEGALS will continue to pour in, say goodbye to what’s left of this fractured nation.

Good job


205 posted on 02/04/2016 1:04:00 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: caww

Aren’t you cute?!

C’mon ILLEGALS, that’s where it’s headed, hope you are pleased with the results.

Oh wait, you guys actually believe Cruz would stop them!
Bwwahahahah


206 posted on 02/04/2016 1:05:10 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Nope. Its my seventh presidential election cycle. It is however, my first presidential election cycle where 30% of my fellow party members support a New York Democrat Reality TV Show Personality. There’s a first time for everything.


207 posted on 02/04/2016 1:07:40 PM PST by Techjock
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To: Techjock

Remember what they said about Reagan?


208 posted on 02/04/2016 1:09:45 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: dem bums
The guy wasn't the fire marshall.

Wrong!! Trump said he was the Fire Marshal; so he is the Fire Marshal. As a matter of fact, he is great Fire Marshal and we have great Fire Marshals coming out, I promise you. Did you see the Fire Marshal polls? The numbers, I'm just saying for the great Fire Marshals we are getting. But the media won't show the Fire Marshals so, here's the Fire Marshal.Ted Cruz hates Fire Marshals unless they are Canadians.

209 posted on 02/04/2016 1:10:58 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: reegs

[You do know how camera angles work, right?]

If you didn’t watch BOTH videos, then you don’t know what the difference between reality and what the bogus crap that Cincinatus’wife posted.

And yes I know about camera angles are.


210 posted on 02/04/2016 1:11:18 PM PST by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: SoConPubbie

Really, I never heard Trump make a claim that it was a full house there. So where’s the dishonesty? I assume you also think Cruz is dishonest as well?


211 posted on 02/04/2016 1:11:35 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

I remember exactly what they said about Reagan. I don’t remember Reagan calling women bimbos, making fun of handicapped individuals or whining about being cheated out of an Iowa victory despite the fact that Reagan did lose Iowa. Trump is NO Reagan. Only a fool or a republican poser would make such a claim.


212 posted on 02/04/2016 1:12:39 PM PST by Techjock
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Yes, I do.
And he had huge crowds and blue collar democrat crossovers.
Mr. Bush got 3 or 4 % in Iowa
This thread should be retitled
‘Uniparty Desperately Trying to Hide the Shrinking, Teenie Weenie Size of their Crowds’.
This thread is so yesterdays news.
HAHAHA
TWB
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213 posted on 02/04/2016 1:16:15 PM PST by TWhiteBear (i)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Nice analysis. I can play that game, too. If Trump wins, this country is toast.

And, yep, I’m a Trump hater. I absolutely despise the guy. He has no business running for president, especially as a conservative.


214 posted on 02/04/2016 1:16:47 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's only February, but you've already won the most tedious and tiresome poster of the year award.

Go rest on your laurels.

215 posted on 02/04/2016 1:16:57 PM PST by onona (Where are you tonight, my sweet Marie)
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To: cherry

I will vote for any Republican or conservative candidate except Trump, because he’s really neither. I’ll vote for Rand Paul, but not Trump.

I’m not fooled. If Trump is the nominee, I will write-in Cruz with a good conscience and will not be fooled by this poseur. If Biden suddenly said he was running as a Republican, I wouldn’t be fooled either.


216 posted on 02/04/2016 1:19:30 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe the capacity is determined in the aggregate, not by
available floor space, meaning 12,000 is 12,000 whether it's on the arena floor or in the seats or any combination of the two.
The author is playing 3 Card Monte with the facts.
217 posted on 02/04/2016 1:29:12 PM PST by Duke C.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So, Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus had a wife ... you? Still living? After 2500 years or so?

So keep on Cruz’n...Donald to the rescue! Go Trump!


218 posted on 02/04/2016 1:29:20 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Techjock

So you think Rosie Odonnel is a elegant woman?


219 posted on 02/04/2016 1:35:09 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: manc; Jim Robinson
“WOW Do you ever give up? All day. Instead of fighting between the two camps how about focusing on Rubio, unless you want Rubio and are here to divide and conquer for the establishment.”

I'm seeing that things haven't let up on either side of this divide. Why don't we, as FReepers, try to broker a ceasefire here between Cruz and Trump supporters, that could grow into the candidates and their campaigns emulating? This is getting out of hand. I suspect that the majority of FReepers prefer Donald or Ted and can stomach the other, even if barely. I think that the visceral hatters of either side are the outliers, statistical anomalies, despite the volume and frequency with which they post their vitriol. This concept should be discussed here and in other threads until it takes root. IMHO.

I may repeat this post elsewhere.

220 posted on 02/04/2016 1:43:14 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Vote Cruz. In case of emergency, break glass, place fingers on nose, squeeze gently, vote Trump.)
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