Posted on 01/30/2016 4:43:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux
“You can’t have freedom of religion AND make one particular religion ‘illegal’.... no matter how abhorrent or whacked-out someone else believes that religion to be.”
ORLY? ? ? ?
Let us assume some queer decides to start “The Church Of The Holy ButtBoy” with ceremonies best left undescribed on this forum.
As long as they sincerely believe that sex with young boys is what their “god” commands, would you agree that their religion is legal?
What of a religion that believes that their faith requires sacrificing virgins?
Above and beyond the above mentioned flaw in the opening quote from MamaTexan, there is the fact that Islam is a cult, a war cult.
A cult exercises complete control of its members, thus removing free will and responsibility - both essential parts of being a citizen instead of a subject or cult member.
Islam, for example, defines how one cleans oneself after defecation. Islam commands one wipe ones self with three, five, or seven smooth round stones, but Never, Ever, use two, four or six smooth round stones.
Howzat for control? Enough to recognize Islam as a cult?
“The best way to diminish Islam by using Alinsky tactics:
Marginalize, ridicule, contain it, and make Islam universally hated and feared.
Islam is the new nazism.”..........
BINGO! We have a winner. Perfect example: consider what is currently being done with Christian religions here in the U.S. We aren’t supposed to pray, particularly in schools, can’t have any signs related to our religions, no crosses, etc. etc. What more needs to be said. The world knows the U.S. is a Christian nation and Muslims/Islam will not stop until we are totally and completely over come. I will support ANYONE who wants to remove or reject Islamist here in this country.
From “Moriori”, by Denise Davis and MÄui Solomon, in Te Ara, the Encyclopedia of New Zealand:
Hundreds of years ago the Moriori, of the Chatham Islands, took a solemn vow of peace known as Nunuku”s Law. The decision to uphold this sacred law in the face of aggression in 1835 had tragic consequences. They were slaughtered, enslaved, and dispossessed of their lands. The Moriori lived on Chatham Island and Pitt Island, two islands in the Chatham Islands group, about 700 kilometers south-east of Wellington.
If Hitler had been as smart as Mohammed, he would have declared Nazism to be a religion, and then some around here would say, “We can’t forbid them from setting up Nazi Temples.”
I was doing no such thing. I approached you from the position of perhaps you not knowing. But since you've obviously been offended by that approach I suggest you stop demonstrating that you think and post like a child.
And do you understand - THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT TO BE DISCARDED SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU FIND IT INCONVENIENT?
One of us is defending the Constitution and what it means because they understand what it says (me) and the other (you) lacks knowledge of what the Constitution means, and Thomas Jefferson's writings and approach towards muslim terrorism during the Barbary Pirates and the First Barbary War
If you want to stop being treated like a child (your perception) then educate yourself.
Right on, Travis. :-)
First - GURU - you can keep your nasty posts about butt boys to yourself.
Secondly, STOP trying to act as if I'm defending the blood cult known as islam, because I am most certainly NOT....I am defending the Constitution....PERIOD!
Just because you don't LIKE THE FACT islam is considered a religion doesn't mean it isn't, so you need to get over the fantasy that it can be treated as anything else.
Unless you can actually DISCUSS THIS without acting like a bunch of poo-flinging monkeys, that will be all I have to say on the subject.
Read “Maoris, Moors and Migrants” linked above. The Moriori of Chatham Island were so bound by their creed of non-violence, Nunuku’s Law, that they accepted being slaughtered by vicious cannibals, even though they outnumbered the vicious cannibals better than 2 to 1.
The constitution is not a suicide pact, and Islam is not just a religion.
So, if Hitler dressed up Nazism as a religion, you would be good with German “refugees” building “Nazi Temples” across the USA in 1940?
Really? Read about Nunuku’s Law in the Maori link above.
Our constitution is not a sucker’s suicide pact, where we have to march to our executions like the peaceful Chatham Islanders, because our murderers declare themselves to be a religion.
LOL! Deflective comparison. The Barbary Wars were fought outside the limits of the country.
No, you're not defending the Constitution. You may think you are, but you're not.
And here is where you demonstrate your lack of understanding of what Islam is:
Just because you don't LIKE THE FACT islam is considered a religion doesn't mean it isn't, so you need to get over the fantasy that it can be treated as anything else.
Islam is NOT a religion. Islam is a THEOCRACY. Clearly, you do not understand that, nor do you understand what a THEOCRACY is. Suggest you start HERE with the basic definition of Thecracy, then start reading what Islam actually is.
You are not posting from a position of facts. You are posting from a position of "mainstream" thought on what islam is, and mainstream thought is incorrect. Just because the "mainstream" calls it a religion does not make it true.
The author doesn't claim much success at all. In fact, it sounds downright impossible to "fix" them.
The best solution is to keep them at large distances (in time and space).
Still waiting for you to address my question about our being required to accept a “Nazi religion” in 1940 (if Hitler had been as clever as Mohammed,)
And my question about the peaceful islanders who accepted being slaughtered rather than violating their “constitution” of Nunuku’s Law.
At what point would you accept that Islam is much more than a religion, and that because it is a virulent and violent attack plan merely dressed as a religion, it must be treated as such?
Good grief, Travis. Of course I wouldn't, and I never said the Constitution was a suicide pact.
I gave a viable and Constitutional solution earlier in the thread - people from muslim countries can be expelled NOT because they're muslim, but because they come from countries that harbor terrorists...(which are also muslim).... but everyone apparently just waltz right past that part.
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I did, however think you were capable of distinguishing between 'what ifs' and reality. Guess I was wrong.
Who's deflecting? The Barbary Wars were fought in DIRECT RESPONSE to muslim terrorism against American merchant ships!
Are you seriously suggesting we shouldn't have fought them and defended ourselves?
Yes, you're defending a suicide pact. Your posts prove that.
No, you were being duplicitous in your post which was obvious and frankly, not worth response. The fact you don't see it to this point also speaks to your lack of education on the issue of islam and the Constitution.
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