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Trump: Establishment rallying behind me to stop 'nasty' Cruz
The Hill ^ | January 25. 2016 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 01/25/2016 12:38:39 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

GOP front-runner Donald Trump says establishment Republicans are warming up to his presidential bid because they're terrified of Ted Cruz being the party's nominee...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; cruz; donaldtrump; gangof14; gope; rinos; tds; teaparty; tedcruz; trump; usualsuspect
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To: Aquamarine

I know. It’s depressing. They’re acting about Trump in their hero worship, like the left acted about Obama. He’s their rock star.


61 posted on 01/25/2016 2:05:02 PM PST by DrewsMum
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To: DrewsMum

I keep hoping they’ll come to their senses. It’s like we’re in the Twilight Zone.


62 posted on 01/25/2016 2:18:09 PM PST by Aquamarine (Vote Conservative.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It’s important not to forget that only a few weeks ago, Trump singularly upset the whole election apple cart!

Trump set the national agenda by opposing illegal immigration and bringing up other issues that the GOPe and their allies desperately wanted to avoid, and now they can’t.

The GOPe was not prepared for this, and as a consequence they don’t have a clue about what to do, hence their almost universal collapse into a pile of quivering jello, flip-flopping like a bag of Mexican jumping beans dumped on a hot griddle.

Trump has exposed those who pretend to be conservative but are really just fronts for big money establishment campaign donors who purchase their candidates with campaign “donations”.

Trump, by actually being a real man, has exposed the other candidates (Cruz excepting of course) and their allies for the weak little sniveling sellouts that they really are.

Trump’s vociferous truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media have been the catalyst that triggered a massive revolt amongst conservative voters who are infuriated at the GOPe Congress doing absolutely ZERO to stop Obama’s agenda, and suddenly the GOP RINO leadership is in full blown panic mode and in full blown retreat, and the SMALL conservative House contingent smelt blood in the water, took heart, and charged in against a weakened, frightened and paralyzed GOPe leadership, and Boehner was taken out as a sacrificial lamb.

Trump is absolutely correct when he says that without Trump in the race, everything would be same-ol’, same-ol. The Joyful Tippy-Toes Turtle would be creeping closer to the finish line, Boehner would still be safely ensconced as Speaker, and there would be no mention of illegal immigration are any of the issues surrounding it by any politician in either party, other than possibly how critical it would be to pass immigration “reform”.

The media are loath to make the connection, but it’s obvious that the Boehner resignation was yet another falling domino, toppling due to the Trump Effect, because Trump’s unabashed truth-telling and fearless neutering of the kommie media triggered a revolt amongst the great unwashed GOP masses which emboldened a few conservative Congress critters to grow a few pairs.

And our nation wouldn’t even be having ANY of these conversations about illegal immigration and the myriad of other Obammunist issues destroying our country if it wasn’t for Trump. Instead, we’d simply be debating which RINO, GOPe squish would be least likely to be stomped by Hillary, and the GOPe would once again be exhorting the “base” about how critical it is for us to once again vote for the “lesser of two evils”, that is, vote for the GOPe side of the Uniparty coin.

And do note that ALL of the oligarchs and plutocrats are frightened to death of Donald Trump because the billionaires and millionaires can’t buy him like all of the other politicians they routinely purchase, because Trump doesn’t need nor want their money, and the kommie media is frightened to death of him because he isn’t afraid of them either, the bottom line being that Donald Trump can not be controlled by the rich and powerful or the corrupt media, so for anyone who is truly for campaign finance reform and wants to take money out of politics, voting for Trump is the only reasonable choice.

President Trump is really the last hope for this country: if he can’t undo any of the damage wrought by the Obammunists, the U.S.A. is done.

So least we forget, the above, and much more, are called “The Trump Effect”.


63 posted on 01/25/2016 2:22:09 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yeah because CRUZ would actually do something about the Establishment, that’s why they call him “nasty”.

Donald Trump, maybe.. maybe not, but I don’t want to take that gamble!


64 posted on 01/25/2016 2:23:22 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: Aria

Can you help me understand why this is a sufficient argument against Cruz? Is it because he was with Beck and Beck is unhinged? Is it because the people to whom they were showing kindness had broken the law? Is it not possible to insist on strict enforcement of the law, and simultaneously recognize that those who have broken it might themselves have been victimized or experienced basic human suffering in the act?

My personal opinion is that all immigration, legal or illegal, must be stopped at least until the US economy can put people back to work, the southern border, actually all borders, must be permanently secured, and all those here illegally should be deported. It does not follow logically that they or their children should be denied individual human kindness or that those who offer it are somehow untrustworthy.

Cruz’s position is not completely consistent with mine, but Trump plans to put a “big, beautiful door” in the wall, and bring “the good ones” immediately back in. Not only is he endorsing touchback amnesty, but such a world-class manager should recognize that it would be far more efficient to identify “the good ones” while they are here and spare the expense of deporting them and then just bringing them right back.

Maybe Cruz knew his bill wouldn’t pass. But most of us have urged the House Republicans to pass legislation which we knew would not get through the Senate, and we’ve urged Republicans in both houses to pass legislation which we knew would be vetoed by Obama. In fact, only writing legislation which they know will pass has been one of the key failures of the Republican establishment.

So neither offering toys to illegal alien children nor writing a bill which could not pass are serious arguments against Cruz’s position on illegal immigration.


65 posted on 01/25/2016 2:36:27 PM PST by HoustonSam
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To: HoustonSam

I have to get back to you later...


66 posted on 01/25/2016 2:38:33 PM PST by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: jennychase
Objective is to win election.

It is. Just ask Jonathan Gruber.

67 posted on 01/25/2016 2:43:36 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I sometimes say ‘context is everything.’

Is there an objective standard for “context”? Well, a sentence fragment is too short. A sentence is better. A paragraph is better yet. Add the preceding and following paragraph, and you will have the statement and adequate context most, say 80% or 90%, of the time.

Here’s all I could find (from Trump) at the link:

“I think the establishment actually is against me but really coming on line because they see me as opposed to Cruz, who is a nasty guy who can’t get along with anybody,” Trump said in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on Monday.

“Look, at a certain point, we got to make deals,” Trump continued. “We can’t have a guy who stands in the middle of the Senate floor and every other senator thinks he’s a whack job. You have to make deals, you have to get along, that’s the purpose of what our founders created, and Ted cannot get along with anybody. He’s a nasty person.”

I don’t believe this slander against Ted Cruz.

I am aghast that a Presidential candidate would talk this way. Donald Trump sounds like Glenn Beck.

Now to the substance. Is it easy for a McCain or a Trump to reach across the aisle to get a deal? Pretty easy, all you have to do is beat-up on Republicans. CNN and the rest of the press will help. Does Obama reach across the aisle to make a deal with conservatives? Does he compromise? No.

A conservative President would be good for America. Ted Cruz is conservative. That means deals when it is good for the US, and no deal, when the only deal available is bad. Remember all the attacks on Reagan for not trading away SDI to the Soviets? He refused that deal, and the Soviet Union is history.


68 posted on 01/25/2016 2:47:23 PM PST by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congresus in 2006.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Smart move by Trump. If the GOPe wants to try to make Trump look bad by saying they now support him...he throws it back IN THEIR FACES.

I like it!


69 posted on 01/25/2016 2:59:14 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Aria

Border closed, but not based on a promise by a guy who thinks obama’s doing a great job.


70 posted on 01/25/2016 3:02:41 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Screw yourself, Donald, which I’m sure you’d like to do.


71 posted on 01/25/2016 3:10:44 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: BobL
"Smart move by Trump. If the GOPe wants to try to make Trump look bad by saying they now support him...he throws it back IN THEIR FACES."

Can you think coherently? If the GOPe - as you put it - supports Trump- and they apparently do - then why do YOU support him?
72 posted on 01/25/2016 3:13:38 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Aria

No prob, we all have lives and obligations. I have to go buy some teddy bears and soccer balls myself .........


73 posted on 01/25/2016 3:34:37 PM PST by HoustonSam
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To: Steve_Seattle

“Can you think coherently? If the GOPe - as you put it - supports Trump- and they apparently do - then why do YOU support him?”

And you REALLY believe they support him. Right. They support him just as much as they support Cruz.

But it is fun seeing Trump PLAY THEM. He is great at that.


74 posted on 01/25/2016 3:57:18 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: HoustonSam

My suspicion is that he was grandstanding both sides of the issue...so he could have it both ways depending on how the wind blew. This isn’t the only time I’ve noticed this. If it weren’t for the publicity one might give him credit for kindness to those less fortunate,

I could be wrong but he keeps coming up with weird excused for why “he was for it before he was against it”.

Probably the power bug got hold of him and he’s lost his cool over his need to advance himself. It does seem that his inclinitations are conservative but he’s gone off the reversation a couple of times - to me suggesting he can be bought.


75 posted on 01/25/2016 8:09:34 PM PST by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)
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To: SPRINK
I honestly think Trump is The Terminator part deaux...

{^) Good comparison!

76 posted on 01/26/2016 2:05:25 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: HoustonSam

WELL SAID.


77 posted on 01/26/2016 2:07:55 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Aria

If your rule is that ambitious, publicity-seeking politicians can likely be bought, then you have no basis for distinguishing among politicians. They are all ambitious, more so at higher levels, and they all seek publicity. Neither are in themselves bad qualities in someone running for elected office in a democratic system. Of course we sometimes see in them extremes of insincerity here, and you and I might honestly see Cruz or any other politician differently in that sense.

Your prior argument was that Cruz’s position on illegal immigration was not credible because he had given toys to children and a bill he wrote did not pass. Do you wish to maintain that position?


78 posted on 01/26/2016 3:50:35 AM PST by HoustonSam
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To: ChessExpert

Preach it ChessExpert, you rock.

In fact on the “dealmaker” argument I’d call that “checkmate.”


79 posted on 01/26/2016 3:50:35 AM PST by HoustonSam
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To: Ronin

Deal making. Exactly what does D.C. deal in other than Americans’ freedoms, wealth, property, liberties and enterprise?

With a 09% approval rating it’s fair to say consent of the governed is lost.

And someone wants to brag about making deals with politicians using the Peoples’ interests as currency?


80 posted on 01/26/2016 3:57:32 AM PST by Justa
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