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Tom DeLay: Cruz Has Problem on Citizenship Issue
NewsMax ^ | 01/13/2016 | NewsMax

Posted on 01/14/2016 6:00:17 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told Newsmax TV on Wednesday that Ted Cruz might ultimately "end up in the courts" on the question of his citizenship and how it might affect his presidential campaign. "I've had this problem ever since Cruz announced," DeLay, the five-term Texas Republican who served from 2003 to 2005, told "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview.

"There is a difference between the definition of natural born and naturalization — and it has not been settled by any branch of government. "Cruz needs to address this in some way because it is a cloud right now in Iowa," DeLay said. [...]

DeLay, however, told Malzberg that the "most expedient" way for Cruz to settle any questions is to work through the courts. "You can't do anything through Congress," he said. "Congress isn't going to pass any bill to protect him — and I'm sure [President Barack] Obama wouldn’t sign anything. "He's going to the courts if he's the nominee. The Democrats will use every avenue available to them.

"They sued me over a valid issue," DeLay said, referring to a 2006 lawsuit brought by Democrats after he dropped his re-election bid. "They'll sue him. "He'll end up in the courts one way or another."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; cubanhoserboyted; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; tedcruzhosereh
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To: RC one

Plural, meaning both mother and father are citizens of the USA, right?


81 posted on 01/14/2016 6:44:07 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ( "Radical" Muslims will kill you. "Moderates" will sit in silence and watch the radicals kill you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Prove it.


82 posted on 01/14/2016 6:44:24 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: FreeReign
They said single parent

No, it says "children of parents." Furthermore, it specifically references fathers.

and over seas was fine.

For the purposes of treating children of such unions "as if" they were natural born, but not that they were really natural born.

83 posted on 01/14/2016 6:44:43 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: alstewartfan

who Delay supports and him telling you Cruz needs to have this question settled are two different issues


85 posted on 01/14/2016 6:45:30 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Helicondelta

Let us not keep on with question begging rhetoric... we can’t say he “became” one if it had been already so under US law.


86 posted on 01/14/2016 6:45:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Godebert

Bookmark


87 posted on 01/14/2016 6:46:02 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ( "Radical" Muslims will kill you. "Moderates" will sit in silence and watch the radicals kill you.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Cruz supporter logic:

Barack Obama, born in Hawaii to a citizen mother and non-citizen father, is constitutionally ineligible
Ted Cruz, born in a foreign country to a citizen mother and non-citizen father, is perfectly legit

88 posted on 01/14/2016 6:46:24 AM PST by ScottWalkerForPresident2016
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

We’ll see.


89 posted on 01/14/2016 6:46:44 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

I doubt it.


90 posted on 01/14/2016 6:48:59 AM PST by alstewartfan (I woke with the frost and noticed she'd lost the veil that covered her eyes. Al Stewart)
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To: djf
can't prove his parents were Citizens.

Exclusive: Birth Certificate for Ted Cruz's Mother


91 posted on 01/14/2016 6:49:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: FreeReign
-- The Naturalization Act of 1790 best shows the Founders intent about the definition of a NBC --

One can continue to hold that belief for only so long as one maintains ignorance of the history and other writings, as well as blowing off and handwaving away of the common and ordinary effect of "shall be considered as".

92 posted on 01/14/2016 6:49:25 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: RC one

http://statesidelegal.org/citizenship-children-born-servicemembers-overseas

3.The child’s parents were married before the child was born. One parent is U.S. citizen and the other is a noncitizen. Before the child’s birth the U.S. citizen parent lived for at least five years in the U.S. At least two of those years were when the U.S. citizen parent was older than 14.

Ted Cruz’ birth fits all those criteria.


93 posted on 01/14/2016 6:49:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I used to want it to be settled by the courts.

Then I thought it would be best if was settled by Congress.

Now I’ve reached the point where I want it settled by the sovereign people of the United States. It’s our Constitution and our country.

And if Obama should have taught us anything, it’s that we need the strictest definition of the natural born requirement for the office that includes the powers of the Commander-in-Chief.

Two citizen parents, born in our country.


94 posted on 01/14/2016 6:50:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('A man without force is without the essential dignity of humanity.' - Frederick Douglass)
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To: exit82

Neither is Obama, Haley or Jindal.

“of parents who are citizens” - plural.

Having an American mother might make you American, but not a natural born citizen.

Under natural law, the conditions of the children follow the condition of the father, not the mother.


95 posted on 01/14/2016 6:51:15 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: fivecatsandadog

The purpose of Article II, section 1, paragraph 5 was to guarantee full and unquestionable unencumbered allegiance to the United States by any and every POTUS. a non citizen parent would not be consistent with that intent. you could not convince me that a child born of an alien parent would have full, unquestionable, unencumbered allegiance to this country. I have seen to many hyphenated Americans waving the flags of their fathers in the streets of America to ever accept such a notion.


96 posted on 01/14/2016 6:51:56 AM PST by RC one (race baiting and demagoguery-if you're a Democrat it's what you do.)
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To: xzins

Precisely
Ted knows that! So clean up the mess

You know Trumps older sister is a close friend of Sam Alito. They served together and she spoke for him at his senate confirmation hearing. As colleagues their records were fairly identical.
IOW he has a judicial advisor that he’s known since birth.
He’s not going to give advice on the subject without consulting an expert. That is one trait his children all admire about him. The consultation of Canadian ice rink builders when fixing The Central Park rink is a prime example


97 posted on 01/14/2016 6:52:29 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: NOVACPA
Having an American mother might make you American, but not a natural born citizen.

So you're like a semi-citizen? Half-citizen? What?

98 posted on 01/14/2016 6:52:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz would do well to have this issue settled by the courts as soon as possible. It will not go away on it’s own and will probably deter a lot of support he might otherwise enjoy.


99 posted on 01/14/2016 6:53:17 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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To: RC one
It was repealed by the man who authored the constitution, the man who agrees that place of birth best guarantees allegiance, the man that specifically stripped those unconstitutional words out of the 1790 naturalization act and replaced them with the constitutional words-”citizens”.

The Act's NBC clause would only be unconstitutional if it was meant to be used as a redefinition.

If it was meant to be a simple codification of the common law definition of NBC then it wasn't.

So do you think the Founders put an unconstitutional clause in the 1790 Act?

100 posted on 01/14/2016 6:53:31 AM PST by FreeReign
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