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Muslims love Jesus, too: 6 things you didn't know about Jesus in Islam
Vox ^ | December 23, 2015 | Jennifer Williams

Posted on 12/23/2015 8:01:47 PM PST by EveningStar

Christmas, as everyone knows, commemorates the birth of Jesus and is a major religious celebration for Christians around the world.

But what many people don't know is that Jesus is an important figure in Islam, too, even though most Muslims don't celebrate Christmas (though some of us, especially American Muslims, do).

In honor of the holiday, here are six things you may not know about the role of Jesus -- and his mother, Mary -- in Islam: ...

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


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KEYWORDS: christmas; islam; jenniferwilliams; jesus; muslims; religion; rop; vox
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To: EveningStar

I know one thing: it’s acceptable to lie to the infidel in Islam. Therefore, it’s useless to write about Islam in an effort to create “understanding.” They only thing they understand is their doctrine of crushing all dissent from their belief system, which does not recognize the Divinity of Jesus or His place as a Person of the Trinity.


41 posted on 12/23/2015 8:57:30 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: BeauBo

Amazing how such a ruthless political cult could continue to grow for all these centuries.


42 posted on 12/23/2015 8:57:34 PM PST by boycott (--)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Muhammad was illiterate. He never wrote a word.

But Islam is a fraud religion based on the existing Judaism and Christianity.

Denying Jesus as the Son of God is to preach ‘another Gospel.’

Muhammed’s personal life (marrying a child, murdering, advising his followers to lie and kill others) is not the life of a ‘prophet’ (as Obama calls him) but an anti-Christ.


43 posted on 12/23/2015 8:57:39 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: EveningStar
Christmas is about the Jesus as represented in the New Testaments which were written when people who knew Jesus were still around. This Jesus said we should love even our enemies, died on a cross and rose on the third day, and who is the son of God.

Mohammad claimed to know better than the eye witness what Jesus was all about. He says Jesus was a Muslim, who did not die on the cross, did not command us to love even our enemies, and he said it was blasphemous idolatry to claim Jesus was the son of God.

I am gonna go with the eye witnesses with this one...and say they ain't the same Jesus...but then no follower of Mohammad has a sword to my throat at the moment, which is really their only way of effective persuasion of people who are not willfully ignorant.

44 posted on 12/23/2015 8:57:40 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: EveningStar

Jesus says “thank you” by inviting ALL Muslims to the “First Annual Muslim Pulled Pork Festival” to be held in Kewanee, IL.. the “Hog Capital of the World”


45 posted on 12/23/2015 9:03:29 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: theBuckwheat
Isn't it curious how secular liberals seem to be rushing to the defense of Islam, a religion that is violently opposed to the libertine lifestyle that liberals advocate.
For the longest time, many of the pseudointellectual liberal elite condescendingly dismissed G-D as a nonexistent "invisible sky daddy". Not to mention how many of them go into a near orgasmic trance when they hear Imagine, especially those lyrics: "...and no religion too/ no hell below us/ above us only sky.." Since 9/11 islam is cool with them? IMHO, I think libs see Islamists as "fellow travelers" The gay hatred, misogyny, animal abuse, etc so prevelant in Islam is, pardon the pun TRUMPED by their common hatred of all things Judeo-Christian and Western. So they seek an unholy alliance of convenience with islam. An alliance based on the flawed assumption that "an enemy of my enemy is my friend. And we all know what happens when we ASS-U-ME.
46 posted on 12/23/2015 9:04:33 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

My point was that anyone that claims to love Jesus without accepting His claims of deity makes themselves a liar.

Jesus was either who He said He was, or a liar, or insane.


47 posted on 12/23/2015 9:04:56 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: EveningStar

Any intelligent, knowlegeable person can see that Islam is just a bastardized, copy-cat, made up religion about as authentic as Kwanzaa.


48 posted on 12/23/2015 9:05:08 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

الْقَوْل فِي تَأْوِيل قَوْله تَعَالَى : { يَا أُخْت هَارُون } اِخْتَلَفَ أَهْل التَّأْوِيل فِي السَّبَب الَّذِي مِنْ أَجْله قِيلَ لَهَا : يَا أُخْت هَارُون , وَمَنْ كَانَ هَارُون هَذَا الَّذِي ذَكَرَهُ اللَّه , حَدَّثَنَا اِبْن حُمَيْد , قَالَ : ثنا الْحَكَم بْن بَشِير , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو , عَنْ سِمَاك بْن حَرْب , عَنْ عَلْقَمَة بْن وَائِل , عَنْ الْمُغِيرَة بْن شُعْبَة , قَالَ : أَرْسَلَنِي النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فِي بَعْض حَوَائِجه إِلَى أَهْل نَجْرَان , فَقَالُوا : أَلَيْسَ نَبِيّك يَزْعُم أَنَّ هَارُون أَخُو مَرْيَم هُوَ أَخُو مُوسَى ØŸ فَلَمْ أَدْرِ مَا أَرُدّ عَلَيْهِمْ حَتَّى رَجَعْت إِلَى النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ , فَذَكَرْت لَهُ ذَلِكَ , فَقَالَ : “ إِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا يُسَمُّونَ بِأَسْمَاءِ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلهمْ “ . وَقَالَ بَعْضهمْ : عَنَى بِهِ هَارُون أَخُو مُوسَى , وَنُسِبَتْ مَرْيَم إِلَى أَنَّهَا أُخْته لِأَنَّهَا مِنْ وَلَده , - حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى , قَالَ : ثنا عَمْرو , قَالَ : ثنا أَسْبَاط , عَنْ السُّدِّيّ { يَا أُخْت هَارُون } قَالَ : كَانَتْ مِنْ بَنِي هَارُون أَخِي مُوسَى

Ya don’t say!


49 posted on 12/23/2015 9:08:09 PM PST by Gasshog (Newly discovered element Trumpamentium causes a Chain Reaction of Testicular Fortitude!!)
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To: Hostage

Yeah no doubt. They love Jesus as much as I love looking at burning pictures of the twin Towers.


50 posted on 12/23/2015 9:11:48 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: EveningStar
Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.  

Kitman - Lying by omission.  An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."   

Though not called Taqiyya by name, Muhammad clearly used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.  The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later.  Some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.   

Another example of lying is when Muhammad used deception to trick his personal enemies into letting down their guard and exposing themselves to slaughter by pretending to seek peace.  This happened in the case of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf (as previously noted) and again later against Usayr ibn Zarim, a surviving leader of the Banu Nadir tribe, which had been evicted from their home in Medina by the Muslims.  

At the time, Usayr ibn Zarim was attempting to gather an armed force against the Muslims from among a tribe allied with the Quraish (against which Muhammad had already declared war).  Muhammad's "emissaries" went to ibn Zarim and persuaded him to leave his safe haven on the pretext of meeting with the prophet of Islam in Medina to discuss peace.  Once vulnerable, the leader and his thirty companions were massacred by the Muslims with ease, probably because they were unarmed, having been given a guarantee of safe passage (Ibn Ishaq 981).  

Such was the reputation of Muslims for lying and then killing that even those who "accepted Islam" did not feel entirely safe.  Consider the fate of the Jadhima.  When Muslim "missionaries" approached their tribe, one of the members insisted that they would be slaughtered even though they had already "converted" to Islam to avoid just such a demise.  However, the others believed they could trust the Muslim leader's promise that they would not be harmed if they simply offered no resistance.  (After convincing the skeptic to lay down his arms, the unarmed men of the tribe were quickly tied up and beheaded - Ibn Ishaq 834 & 837).

sound familiar?

51 posted on 12/23/2015 9:12:56 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: EveningStar

Islam does not acknowledge Jesus as fully God and fully man. The fundamentals of Christianity are anathema to Islam, hence, they are anathema to me


52 posted on 12/23/2015 9:17:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Mario Joseph is one of the most interesting video's ever in my opinion. he shows if you carefully read the Qur'an it tells you to be a christian.

One of many great points he made. Slave's can't love their master and the master can't love his slaves. This is a given. Why does Muhammad say all followers of Allah are a slave of Allah? This proves Muhammad was a false prophet without any doubt.

53 posted on 12/23/2015 9:19:07 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: EveningStar

Muslims deny the most crucial truth about Jesus - He is the Son of God who died for the sins of the world; there is no way to gain access to God except through Him.


54 posted on 12/23/2015 9:21:54 PM PST by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: EveningStar

Honor Jesus and Mary, crucify, behead, rape and Enslave Christians. Got it.


55 posted on 12/23/2015 9:37:45 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: EveningStar

No, they really do not.


56 posted on 12/23/2015 9:43:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Muhammad just plagiarized other religions’ writings.”

He did indeed, many elements and aspects of Islam come from other religions. Then Mo and his successors twisted some, combined them with, re-interpreted & applied them in the Arab, Bedouin cultural & social context, initially in what we today know as Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

The above practices and tradition keep going to date. Islam continues to gain strength because of *outsiders* AND what is ‘unIslamic’.

Islam is a parasite.


57 posted on 12/23/2015 9:52:39 PM PST by odds
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To: TigerClaws
"Islam is a fraud religion based on the existing Judaism and Christianity."

True, but it also incorporated elements of the local pagan religion, to try and recruit them as well. Allah was considered first among many in the local pagan pantheon (which is why muhammad's uncle had been named after him, before muhammad was born). That is why you will sometimes hear freepers call Allah the Moon God - that was his role for the pagans, before his promotion by muhammad.

The Kaaba, the holiest site in islam which is the focus of the hajj pilgramage, was the main pagan shrine for pilgrimage, which was the biggest business in town before islam.

Salman Rushdie's "Satanic Verses" refers to the time that muhammad revealed as scripture from God, that more of the most popular pagan godesses (Allāt, Uzza, and Manāt) were recognized divine beings, able to intercede with Allah on behalf of supplicants, which a group of potential pagan recruits had been lobbying for. When his long term followers, who had taken lots of heat over the strict monotheism policy threatened to bolt, muhammad reversed himself, saying that the devil had forced him to say those things - hence the term Satanic Verses.

Kosher dietary restrictions became the almost identical Halal requirements (except that you have to say "Allah" when cutting the animals throat). The Christian Lenten Fast became Ramadan Fast. The Christian Liturgy of the Hours became the five requried daily prayers.

The great bulk of islam was cherry picked from the three competing religions, according to whatever would satisfy recruits to swear their oaths to him, and join his command for raiding parties (which grew into armies of conquest).

What is new and unique in islam is uniformly immoral or amoral, and geared totally toward politically supporting muhammad's absolute dictatorship and military conquests. The first and most important pillar of islam (Shahada) is original to islam - it is the oath affirming muhammad's absolute and unquestionable authority as the sole spokesperson for the only god. After accepting that outlandish premise, there can be no logic or reason - only obediance - submission. That is why they enforce it so heavily with the death penalty.

58 posted on 12/23/2015 9:56:20 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: EveningStar

Pure unadulterated BS.


59 posted on 12/23/2015 10:10:30 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: BeauBo; All

Thanks for your post. Informative.

Here’s a nice summary of why the Crusades took place - and shines a light on the disinformation from the leftists/Muhammadens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilFbbk9jw4&feature=youtu.be


60 posted on 12/23/2015 10:17:48 PM PST by TigerClaws
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