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1 posted on 12/17/2015 12:43:33 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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George Lucas' original intent was that his original trilogy be remembered as a striking blow against American imperialism.

Striking blow? And...how'd that work out Georgie? I'm thinking far less of an effect than a fart in a wind storm.

2 posted on 12/17/2015 12:45:54 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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In which case it massively failed. It had exactly the opposite impact. It totally destroyed the 60s era “anti hero” motif and restored the marketability of the “hero” story line.


3 posted on 12/17/2015 12:47:22 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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I heard years ago that it was based on the Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich. Which would seem to make much more sense than on America. But I wouldn’t put it past a lefty. Making sense is not their strong point.


4 posted on 12/17/2015 12:47:54 PM PST by CrappieLuck
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Lucas is way out on the left, and I wondered what possessed him to make a movie like Star Wars where a wholesome American kid like Mark Hamill played the hero. Now I know. He intended the polar opposite of what audiences perceived.


5 posted on 12/17/2015 12:49:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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It’s like Bruce Springsteen and “Born in the USA.” Leftists just have zero understanding of the political right. They think in terms of simple stereotypes because simple stereotypes are all they know.


7 posted on 12/17/2015 12:53:16 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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My first impression after watching both the original and :Empire” was that it was using ancient Rome as sort of a model.

Then I saw “Return of the Jedi”. It only took a few minutes after the ewoks appeared that I knew it was a political device.

Lucas had a great idea and it has paid him well. Unfortunate that he is a turd. I guess he just is one of the guys in Hollywood tho.


13 posted on 12/17/2015 1:04:51 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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I saw the original as a teen in 1977, and I didn’t get that out of it at all.

If that was Lucas’ intent he did a p*ss poor job with the execution.


15 posted on 12/17/2015 1:11:52 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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16 posted on 12/17/2015 1:12:18 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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What American imperialism?


23 posted on 12/17/2015 1:18:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Star Wars now makes $5 billion a year in various merchandise.


25 posted on 12/17/2015 1:28:51 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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"...an allegorical protest of the Vietnam War."

You mean Luke was VC?

Luke Skywalker was really "Luke the Gook?"

Han Solo was NVA?

Chewbacca was a Soviet Advisor?

26 posted on 12/17/2015 1:29:00 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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Funny this should come up I had a ‘suggested items’ post come up on my feed. It posed this question.

“Which Star Wars character is your pick for president and why?”

My answer:

“Yoda’s dead, so is Kenobi, Solo is easily bought, Luke is good but no match for the Emperor by himself , Leia hasn’t developed her skills. that leaves Vader.

Inasmuch as pretty much all politicians are Sith anyway, he’s shown that he has just enough good in him to depose Palpatine and the skill to pull it off.”


27 posted on 12/17/2015 1:34:22 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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“Thx 1138” was Lucas’ first film. I rewatched it recently. Then I attempted to watch it again with the director’s commentary. Apparently, the film is representative of early 1960’s America, which Lucas deemed too repressive. I turned off the commentary after about five minutes.


30 posted on 12/17/2015 1:54:45 PM PST by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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Sometimes people get the strangest things out of a movie or story, regardless of what the author intended. Back when I was in graduate school, in the mid-50s, I took a course in Theory of Games. It involved using mathematics to choose game strategies when you didn't know what strategy your opponent would pick (both of you have a limited list of strategies that define the game).

I had an idea for a story in which two sides (human and aliens) were using Game Theory to plan their war, but were mistaken about their opponents' value system. That is, each was wrong about the other's payoff. Under that situation, each could think they were winning, while the war was bleeding both white.

It was years later, in the late 1960s, when I finally got the time to write the story. It was published in ANALOG SCIENCE FICTION under the title Zero Sum.

To me, it was primarily an exercise in mathematics, dressed up as a piece of science fiction. However, reviewers thought it was intended as an anti-Vietnam story. I really hadn't thought in terms of Vietnam at all. It was just that I'd finally found the time to write a story I'd been meaning to write for years.

36 posted on 12/17/2015 2:18:53 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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I thought Star Wars was a rip off of Flash Gordon.


37 posted on 12/17/2015 2:23:19 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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Can’t movies or art just be enjoyment?

A few years ago I was on vacation in Mauai. There was an art gallery hosting a show with Anthony Hopkins. While there some artsy fartsy type kept trying to ask him “What does this mean, What statement are you making, what inspired this, what is the message...”

To which he replied one of the best I’ve heard at an art gallery.

“I just like painting, why does it have to mean anything?”

I remember when the horrible Episode 1 came out and how it was all about George bush. Or when Batman came out it was about Romney.

I was too young to really know much about Viet Nam but to me Star Wars was a fun good versus bad movie. Not some stupid political statement.


39 posted on 12/17/2015 2:44:08 PM PST by Organic Panic
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Funny, I don’t recall him saying anything about that when the first movie came out, or the second or third. Lord knows I stopped paying attention when he puked out the second trilogy.


40 posted on 12/17/2015 3:31:00 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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So nice that the freedom fighters prevailed in Vietnam, and then they murdered over 3 million people in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia to celebrate their brand of freedom.


51 posted on 12/18/2015 3:41:04 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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