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BIRDS TAKE OUT T-38C - Pilot delays ejection to avoid crashing into city
US Air Force ^ | 8/26/2014 | AETC News

Posted on 12/03/2015 6:32:44 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO-RANDOLPH, Texas -- A bird strike led to the crash and destruction of a T-38C Talon from Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas, July 19, 2013, according to a recently released Air Force accident investigation board report.

The investigation board determined the bird strike shattered the T-38C Talon canopy, which sent fragments through the number two engine causing engine failure. The shattered canopy also significantly increased the aerodynamic drag of the aircraft.

Additionally, investigators said the actions of the instructor pilot following the strike contributed to the mishap. In an attempt to return to base, the instructor pilot executed a turn that increased drag on the aircraft, robbing it of badly needed airspeed and lift which caused the aircraft to enter into an unrecoverable stall. The pilot delayed ejection as he attempted to avoid flying over the city of Wichita Falls, Texas, and the aircraft impacted the ground about two miles south of the base.

The instructor pilot and student, assigned to the 80th Flying Training Wing, were executing a planned touch-and-go, simulated single-engine approach training exercise when the aircraft sustained the bird strike.

Both pilots safely ejected from the aircraft, suffering nonlife- threatening injuries. There were no fatalities or significant damage to civilian property. The loss of the aircraft cost nearly $8 million, the report said.


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This story is over a year old, but nothing came up on a search and I just wanted to highlight something good this guy did. Honestly, I think the accident board was too hard on this guy. Let's see how anybody reacts when they're moving 400 MPH and things are literally blowing up in their face.
1 posted on 12/03/2015 6:32:44 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; ...

Active Duty ping.


2 posted on 12/03/2015 6:38:17 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Yes, the second guessers probably thought the crew should do a controllability check before maneuvering.

They weren't in the cockpit with plexiglass flying in a high subsonic windstorm with blood and guts all over the visors. Something far from their perfect world.

3 posted on 12/03/2015 6:43:43 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Once the plane was disabled in the air, it was done. What happened after that resulted in this: "There were no fatalities or significant damage to civilian property."

Sounds like a good job to me.

4 posted on 12/03/2015 6:44:23 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The IP did some good things but is always going to catch the full load from the Board. No more IP seat and probably a rip on the next rating board = promotion becomes questionable and next assignment not likely to be Hawaii.


5 posted on 12/03/2015 6:45:16 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Glad he made it home to his family

My dad was not so lucky


6 posted on 12/03/2015 7:04:14 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Took a seagull strike on the windscreen of a TA-4J launching out of P-cola on a night aerobatic & navigation flight, me the retread Student Naval Aviator in the front cockpit, plowback Instructor Pilot in the rear cockpit. Left gear & flaps down, climbed out over the water for handling checks & fuel dump. GCA approach, with bootful of right rudder to see out the left side of the canopy. Squirrelly rollout looking out the side. Landing gear damage from the strike caused hard left drift. Kept it on the runway (barely) and shut down there after crash crew arrived and pinned the gear. Knees knocked and adrenaline exhaustion immediately after. IP had me fly the entire time — I think he was as scared as I was. True story.


7 posted on 12/03/2015 7:26:59 PM PST by twister881
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To: silverleaf

Neither was my best friend, Captain Willie Mays, US Air Force Thunderbirds, killed in Jan., 1982, Indian Springs


8 posted on 12/03/2015 7:29:16 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: twister881

Wow!


9 posted on 12/03/2015 7:30:46 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: twister881

The closest I can relate was a buddy of mine taking a girl for a ride in his newly acquired 454 powered ski boat. He chased some mud hens to impress her. Caught one with the bow and it relieved itself all over her. She was duly impressed but not in a good way.


10 posted on 12/03/2015 7:40:13 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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Funny story, though. “How do you like me now?!”


11 posted on 12/03/2015 7:45:09 PM PST by twister881
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To: Nucluside

Must read for any aviation buffs “Fate is the Hunter” E.K. Gann
Not only a pilot but a sailor. I suggest “Song of the Siren”.


12 posted on 12/03/2015 7:52:09 PM PST by crabpott (' we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory' VDH)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I don’t know. But it seems I remember the guys would go out on a Saturday and shoot birds as a sort of ... Off duty assignment and shoot birds so they wouldn’t end up in the flight path of a tweet or a ‘38


13 posted on 12/03/2015 8:56:19 PM PST by stanne
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To: pgyanke

Once the plane was disabled in the air, it was done. What happened after that resulted in this: “There were no fatalities or significant damage to civilian property.”
Sounds like a good job to me.


Ditto. Turning into the bad engine can slow things down but at least they got to go the bar that night!


14 posted on 12/03/2015 9:02:07 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: silverleaf

Very sorry for your loss.


15 posted on 12/03/2015 9:31:30 PM PST by tenger (Friends don't let friends eat lutefisk.)
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To: twister881
That is the sort of fascinating story very few people ever get to hear, except for family and close friends.
Glad you made it!
16 posted on 12/03/2015 9:35:02 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW! evil ignorant stupid or crazy-doesn't matter!)
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To: Nucluside

Was that the “Diamond Crash”?


17 posted on 12/03/2015 10:44:24 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias. "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: twister881
We had a T Bird assigned to train in Hickam. There was a plane crash report so everyone went to the end next to Fort Kam. The Base Commander came over and asked the pilot to describe the accident, He pointed over the fence to fort Kam and said| I lost power and cleared Ft Kam and this fence here but the left fuel tank hit that stop sign and hit the brake. So the BC asks where he ended up. He pointed out Base Ops 450 yards away. He told him to go home and tell his wife ect.
18 posted on 12/03/2015 11:56:59 PM PST by Domangart
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

8 million dollars for a T-38?

Must be inflation adjusted as a new one was less than a million.

That or the glass cockpit upgrade to a C model was very expensive.


19 posted on 12/04/2015 3:30:12 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: tenger

Thank you


20 posted on 12/04/2015 6:21:39 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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