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Did New Jersey Muslims Celebrate on 9/11?
Frontpagemag.com ^ | November 30, 2015 | Danusha V. Goska

Posted on 11/30/2015 4:57:17 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson

A few people trying to drag truth out of the quicksand.


41 posted on 11/30/2015 6:23:30 AM PST by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: napscoordinator
He is quite amazing but is he that incredible to be in two places at the same time. And no he could not run to NJ on that day. Air flights cancelled for the day (at least) and he could not get a car through the city no matter how important he is. So no I believe one of these is an exaggeration.

Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down, too. On the news, in Idaho. It doesn't take a physical presence to observe something. I watched via television.

Also, there were posts here on FR at the time that specifically mentioned these types celebrations. So, from my lowly little hovel in Idaho, I was able to both observe the attacks, and read about muslims celebrating it here in the United States. I didn't have to be in two places at one time.

42 posted on 11/30/2015 6:25:10 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: napscoordinator

You ARE naive. ..Somalians celebrated in Seattle


43 posted on 11/30/2015 6:32:39 AM PST by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

There were at least two Freepers who lost their lives to the terrorists that day. I had joined FR just a little while before that fateful day so at the time I wasn’t too familiar with anyone at that point. However we should never forget.

RIP Barbara K. Olson and John Moran


44 posted on 11/30/2015 6:37:29 AM PST by xp38
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To: xp38

Absolutely! Their loss was shocking.


45 posted on 11/30/2015 6:41:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: napscoordinator

Have fun.


46 posted on 11/30/2015 6:51:00 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: napscoordinator

The Jersey City riots can be in the archives just like the planes hitting the World Trade Buildings. Never to be played again so we don’t offend the very people who caused the destruction.


47 posted on 11/30/2015 6:51:27 AM PST by Kozy
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To: SJackson
In the fwiw dept., I witnessed a NBC affiliate in Patterson, NJ showing about 50 Muslims celebrating on 9-11, and a CNN/Headline News video showing Muslims in Gaza and Jenine (W. Bank) celebrating (ululating, handing out candy), on 9-12.

I will never forget it.

Go and reproduce asexually MSM.

5.56mm

48 posted on 11/30/2015 6:52:52 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson

Whom are we to believe? The media and establishment pubs and dems or Trump?

See you at the top President Trump!!!!!!


49 posted on 11/30/2015 7:07:16 AM PST by GilGil
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To: napscoordinator
The celebrated in Paterson. My Uncle (who lives across from the Passaic River from Paterson) was on the phone that day telling my Mom about the National Guard trucks heading into Paterson to break up the fighting. Americans of all colors were riding into the area to kick the asses of those celebrating the attacks. There was a total media blackout on the matter, probably because if it were reported on it would get out of control.

A buddy of mine was in the NJ National Guard (Military Police) on 9/11, and was deployed out of Morristown to quell the violence that broke out as a result of the celebrating. I was on the phone with him last week talking about this and he said, "Of course it happened, I was there!"
50 posted on 11/30/2015 7:07:41 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. � Robert Heinlein)
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To: napscoordinator

Do you know that there is this thing called TV?


51 posted on 11/30/2015 7:20:47 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: SunkenCiv

Not a lot of video’s of blacks cheering in the streets about OJ ‘beating the rap’ for killing his white wife either... Yet they were very common at the time.


52 posted on 11/30/2015 7:45:47 AM PST by GOPJ (Syrian (Sunni Muslim) refugees are like Nazi war criminals fleeing Berlin after losing the war.)
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To: Kahuna
I saw the video clips on TV from both our Country and numerous huge demonstrations abroad. I watched 2 networks virtually nonstop on 9/11 from morning to late at night Hawaiian Standard Time. I have a vivid recollection and the celebrations on our land upset me dearly. I can not attest to their being “thousands” in any one location.

But that's what Trump said. He'd seen thousands and thousands demonstrating in Patterson, New Jersey. But to date nobody has been able to find the TV clips he says he saw.

I was in college during 9/11 and I can remember seeing the clips of overseas celebrations, particularly the ones in the Palestinian areas, and how infuriating they were. I dimly remember them talking about the Muslim population in the U.S. but don't recall if it was about demonstrations in favor of 9/11 or if it was just that there was no reactions from them, for or against. Regardless, Trump and his supporters are really grasping at anything that might show that Trump could possibly be kind of correct when he claims the demonstrations ran into the thousands. To date I haven't seen anything to support his claim, and all the reports on actual demonstrations say they were small and sporadic.

53 posted on 11/30/2015 8:26:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SJackson
In a May 5, 1920 photograph of Lenin delivering a speech, Trotsky is clearly visible. After Trotsky fell out of favor, he was airbrushed out of the photo. The Soviets were also good at smearing any speaker of inconvenient truths as too insane to be heard. We must reject the Soviet concept of truth. Truth is truth, even if it is politically incorrect. And truth is our friend. Truth is the friend of non-Muslims and Muslims alike.


 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


54 posted on 11/30/2015 8:35:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SJackson
What we need is frank speech. We need to talk to our Muslim fellow citizens about why some of them celebrated on 9-11.

We DO??

Whatever for?

We KNOW why 'some' celebrated!

55 posted on 11/30/2015 8:36:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: napscoordinator
He is quite amazing but is he that incredible to be in two places at the same time.

Oh?

I saw the WTC coming down and was in Indianapolis at the time!

56 posted on 11/30/2015 8:38:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: parcel_of_rogues
What has happened to people's memories???

... a day that will live in infamy.


57 posted on 11/30/2015 8:43:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I forget who originally said it but 1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual.


58 posted on 11/30/2015 8:44:43 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: GOPJ

Quite so. In GR, the young thugs at the time (most of whom have no doubt gone on to great careers leading to prison time) thought Mark Fuhrman should be put on trial, which of course makes no sense. He didn’t frame OJ, OJ did it, but the morons in the so-callled justice system didn’t want a repeat of the Rodney King riots, so instead of a jury of his peers, OJ got a jury from the ‘hood.


59 posted on 11/30/2015 9:19:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SJackson

How do you think Trump was commuting to and from the Trump World Tower, a 72-story residential tower across from the United Nations Headquarters ?

Do you really think he was in a limo going to and from all his hotels ?
60 posted on 11/30/2015 9:26:22 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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