Check out Article and # 24 .
Thanks WildHighlander 57.
Posted on 11/27/2015 8:00:17 PM PST by george76
EXCLUSIVE - Lebanese Official Claims To Breitbart: NATO 'Okayed' Turkey's Downing Of Russian Jet. [ Full title ].
Turkey could only have shot down a Russian Su-24 military jet after securing permission from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), charged Lebanon's Druze leader Walid Jumblatt in an exclusive interview with Breitbart.
The Turks cannot afford to shoot down a Russian plane, being a member of NATO, without asking the permission of NATO. They have to ask NATO. It's NATO, said Jumblatt, a member of parliament and leader of Lebanon's Progressive Socialist Party.
Jumblatt is considered the leader of Lebanon's historic Druze community.
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The Druze leader's comments came as the confrontation between Turkey and Russia escalated, and Russian President Vladimir Putin implied that the U.S. may have passed Russian flight information to Turkey.
The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes’ flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time, Putin said at a joint press conference with French President Francois Hollande.
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Meanwhile, Putin accused Turkey of accepting oil smuggled by ISIS.
Vehicles, carrying oil, lined up in a chain going beyond the horizon resembling a living oil pipe. Day and night they are going to Turkey. Trucks always go there loaded, and back from there - empty.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
In other words, if an accurate report, yet another needless provocation by Obama trying to get Primarily- Christian world powers into a major way amongst themselves. Next step: really intensify the terrorist attacks against us from the fifth column now- internal islamonazi infiltration forces. All part of the plan
ISTANBUL - 12.10.2015
10/12/2015... Using international dating system; two months ago:
Fuat Avni has claimed that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is planning to take Turkey to war in order to gain complete control of the country.
Posting on his Twitter account on Sunday evening, Avni claimed that Erdogan is even contemplating downing a Russian jet to ensure that Turkey is embroiled in a war with Russia in Syria.
http://en.cihan.com.tr/en/whistleblower-avni-erdogan-plans-to-take-turkey-to-war-1906219.htm
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Obama couldn’t get one his infamous “uh”, “me”, “I” out in 17 seconds without a teleprompter.
Check out Article and # 24 .
Thanks WildHighlander 57.
All this coming from a supporter of Erdogan and ISIS?
It's baffling as to why Jim would let an Islamo-Nazi post on this site.
That's too much diversity.
You should be banned.
Wow, thanks, Matt. Looks great!
In other words what Jumblatt says is as reliable is what Putin or Assad might say. They say he is a Druze leader. What kind of relations to the Druze have with Turkmen or Kurds?
I didn’t realize it when I posted that, but it’s mentioned right away in the video.
Re: your post 49, that seems to be broken.
i could believe it 100 percent. we are going to end up defending muslims and having americans die for them.
what the heck, we elected one.
now everybody go back to candy crush and oxy’s.
I am tired of repeating this, but this whole problem in the Middle East is rooted in the oil, ISIS has been selling oil to all the participants, the French and Germans, the Russians, the Turks and even Assad.
ISIS saw what the Iranians were doing and decided that they would try that as well. The NATO allies sold their souls for oil.
Putin thought that he could push his way into taking over as special friend of the Middle East oil countries since Obama had withdrawn the US. Obama didn’t much care but the NATO partners did.
Now, back to Obama. It has been posited that Obama had made a deal with the Saudis to collapse the oil market, the Saudis could not be depended on to keep the prices low long term. The NATO partners wanted long term low prices, Obama wanted long term low prices and Russia wanted the Iranians to be the source of the low prices, so that it was how the Iran Nuke/Oil Deal came about.
Obama sees the zuS Oil companies as the backbone of US capitalism and if he can collapse the oil industry, he will have achieved his ultimate goal.
Contrary to your comments, you cannot be familiar with my posting history, otherwise you would have already noted my prior comments disclosing some of my military service and experience.
As for your complaint about criticizing other posters who allegedly have honorable U.S. military service, I will respond by saying, “So what.” In the first place, we FreeRepublic readers have no way of knowing whether or not most of the posters are genuine American veterans or not. secondly, the question of whether or not the posters are genuine American veterans may not necessarily matter. I will have you note that one of the men who exercised great personal bravery, sacrifice, and unmatched military skill and leadership without whom the United Sates of America would have been defeated in its Revolutionary War was none other than Major General Benedict Arnold, who is also America’s foremost traitor. If the judgment and/or motives of Benedict Arnold can be subject to public scrutiny, so can the judgment and motives of all other people who enter into public debates and public forum.
One of the techniques used by the Soviet/Russian intelligence services is to infiltrate a public group with multiple personalities and then disinform and agitate to direct the group’s beliefs and loyalties to conform to the objectives of the propaganda campaign. These tactics have been well described by Lt. Gen. Ion Pacepa in his speeches and books. It should be no surprise to find those tactics are being used right here in the forum provided by FreeRepublic. making each other aware of these Russian intelligence activities and being alert to there use by genuine Russian agents and by the othe people who just emulate them either deliberately or unthinkingly is half the battle towards disarming their ability to sow confusion and division of our society and body politic.
I thought it was because it had a semi-colon on the end, but that didn’t work either, I’m sorry.
I believe I originally saw it posted by a commenter on the youtube video with the 2 retired generals.
No way Obama provided weapons to ISIL via Libya. I was watching the Libya overthrow actions daily back then. There were 4, 5, even 6 power centers with different tribes, Islamic orientations, and ethnicities. Most of them had access to caches of Gadaffi’s armaments. Who got them was more likely to be due to whichever faction gained the upper hand in the specific area where the armaments were being stored. These factions ranged from very conservative Falacists to very disaffected Berber populations in the mountains, who incidentally may have been a decisive factor in the overthrow of their Arab dictator.
Of course it is correct! The only part that is not being told is that Russia and Assad have been buying oil from ISIS, along with all the NATO partners. How many times do people need to be told?
OKAY!
Here is a corrected link to the video with the 4 star admiral:
I checked it and it worked for me.
Thanks for letting me know : )
Here is a link that works:
Winds of War.
The press made a big deal about France dropping twenty bombs on ISIS after the Paris attack, but was it such a big deal,really? Isn’t think twenty bombs is anything much.
Obama made a big tadoo over bombing some oil tanker trucks, but he didn’t hit any oil fields or refineries. Of course his excuse is that it would be an environmental disaster, but so is ISIS an environmental disaster.
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