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Russia to boycott Turkish goods; 'We'll buy from Israel instead'
Israel National News ^ | Nov. 26, 2015 | Arutz Sheva Staff

Posted on 11/26/2015 7:52:03 AM PST by VitacoreVision

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To: 1rudeboy
I appreciate your efforts to link me with Obama . . .

I'm sure you do. ;-)

But that doesn't change the reality of America's continued decent into immorality under Obama's presidency. Russia by most accounts is turning back to God under Vlad. Ignoring facts or making lite of them serves no other purpose than maybe a source of adolescence giggles while doing so. And in this case, it's disrespecting the power of the Almighty.

Instead of burying your head in the past, you and others should deal with reality. AMERICA is murdering 3,500 babies a day, promoting abortion worldwide, promoting homosexuality worldwide, helping a cult that is Mohammedanism invade other countries and supporting terrorists in the M.E. who are slaughtering thousands; and calling them 'moderates'.

Yeah, it's a crazy mixed up world. But the thing I'm certain of:

Isaiah 5:20 "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

The first step on the road to recover is admitting your lost. Since our moral compass appears broken, maybe it's time to suck in our pride and borrow someone Else's?!

And woe to those who turn their backs to a Judeo-Christian nation while siding with Muslims! - me...

41 posted on 11/26/2015 9:15:16 AM PST by amorphous
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To: VitacoreVision

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


42 posted on 11/26/2015 9:21:15 AM PST by PGalt
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To: amorphous

Not all of us missed your point. Some people just long for the Cold War days.


43 posted on 11/26/2015 9:26:28 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: 1rudeboy

“you are complaining that I observed a failure in your logic,,, by suggesting I am an Obama supporter”

You do this literally every day. If someone looks at the facts of a story, and concludes the Russians are correct about something, or at least decides they are not 1930s Bolsheviks, your main “logical” response is simply to start name calling, insults, and suggesting they were bribed. You are also unusually quick to throw out a few homosexual references. A lot of us know very little about that world.

This current round started because someone posted a photo off Putin showing a high level of respect to some Orthdox icon. It is a fair question to see what Obama does. I find
him bowing to moslem monarchs, removing his shows to walk into mosques, etc.


44 posted on 11/26/2015 9:26:49 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: dfwgator
What products does Turkey even make?


45 posted on 11/26/2015 9:27:51 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: amorphous

BTW, if anyone wants a laugh at the silly ways we Americans used to view Russians, catch some reruns of The Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I like the show, but some of it is surprising at just how we used to think.


46 posted on 11/26/2015 9:28:06 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: amorphous
Russia by most accounts is turning back to God under Vlad.

Now, why would you add, "by most accounts" to your comment, Ivan?

47 posted on 11/26/2015 9:30:49 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DesertRhino
You do this literally every day. If someone looks at the facts of a story, and concludes the Russians are correct about something, or at least decides they are not 1930s Bolsheviks, your main “logical” response is simply to start name calling, insults, and suggesting they were bribed. You are also unusually quick to throw out a few homosexual references. A lot of us know very little about that world.

Well then, it's such a tragedy. Suck it up, sweetheart.

48 posted on 11/26/2015 9:33:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Leaning Right

Based on Russian history, it makes sense.


49 posted on 11/26/2015 9:36:48 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Leaning Right
Agree. As Stalin was better than Hitler (for our purposes, anyway), Putin is better than the Islamic nuts. But, as I read history, FDR and Churchill did not turn over leadership of the war effort to Stalin. Similarly, we should not turn over leadership of a common effort to Putin.

Stalin was very unhappy with FDR and Churchill. Stalin was insisting that we open a western front much, much earlier than we thought best. Putin has a role to play, but the Western world is not stupid enough to just follow Putin's wishes all the time. And, in the end, ISIS will be defeated. They are the real losers here.

50 posted on 11/26/2015 9:38:57 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Great tagline for this day and time. It's exactly right, and should encourage us all to seek and accept truth wherever we find it.

"People who live in the past generally are afraid to compete in the present. I've got my faults, but living in the past is not one of them. There's no future in it."

51 posted on 11/26/2015 9:39:41 AM PST by amorphous
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To: 1rudeboy
Now, why would you add, "by most accounts" to your comment, Ivan?

Maybe because I'm cynical by nature and adhere to Reagan's philosophy of, "trust but verify".

Even so, I place far more trust in someone who says he follows the teachings of Christ than I do in those who's God, under certain circumstances, gives them permission to lie, cheat, steal, maim, rape, invade, torture, and murder.

If that makes me an Ivan, then so be it! Obama.

52 posted on 11/26/2015 9:49:33 AM PST by amorphous
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To: Leaning Right
Well, he says [leaning on his cane]. It all started with Cliton's bombing of Serbia, which is when I believe the Russians saw they had a "sympathetic" audience here (much like now with Obama's bombing of Syria, if you think about it).

Then Georgia, that we will set aside . . . but they were here with the same techniques.

In a sense, they found the soft underbelly of FR: Paultards, paleos, peaceniks (all of whom object to the label 'Putinista,' but march to the same drum). They just have to pretend to be conservative here and there (much like the others on the list), but all they do is spew Russian government talking-points like sewage through a 24" pipe.

And the tactic works, why should they change it? They just whine like babies when someone points it out. Logical fallacies mean nothing to them. It's all about the spin.

53 posted on 11/26/2015 9:53:40 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: amorphous

Oh, ok. I thought you might have been referring to how churches must be licensed by the state in Russia, and how evangelical churches are “discouraged.”


54 posted on 11/26/2015 9:55:12 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I think a lot of it comes from an inability to separate domestic partisan politics from our country's foreign policy. When I was young, there were a lot of folks who were cheering for Ho Chi Minh not so much because they knew much about Ho but because they detested either LBJ or Nixon and they saw Ho as someone who was the enemy of LBJ and Nixon. I honestly believe that many, many of them have matured now and really wonder at the fact that they were once cheering Ho.

If you see Putin as a thorn in the side of Obama and you hate Obama, then you might naturally feel some support for Putin. But, that is a mistake and particularly a mistake if it means taking the side of a nation at odds with our nation. I think it has been proven to be a mistake to bet against the USA.

And, I would not be surprised if Russia does have some representation here at FR. But, I really think that for the most part, this is really just a failure on the part of some to distinguish between partisan domestic politics and our nation's foreign policy.

Let's face it, it really is hard to admire someone who has done the things that Putin has done.

55 posted on 11/26/2015 10:04:39 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 1rudeboy
all they do is spew Russian government talking-points

I appreciate your reply, and for the sake of this argument I will concede the above statement.

But my real question here was about the motives of the "Russian trolls", not their actions.

So the question I'm trying to ask is not WHAT are they saying, but WHY do you think they're saying it. It's that "why" that differentiates a troll from someone who is simply wrong.

56 posted on 11/26/2015 10:09:59 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I like it.

It will make jooo haters mad.


57 posted on 11/26/2015 10:11:51 AM PST by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Yep. Those intent on hating the USSR back into existence forget, if they ever knew, what living with the threat of MAD was like.


58 posted on 11/26/2015 10:13:28 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: amorphous

Well remember the little There Once was a lady from Niger story


59 posted on 11/26/2015 10:13:42 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: BeadCounter

Russia cut off Ukraine’s natural gas.


60 posted on 11/26/2015 10:14:59 AM PST by huldah1776
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