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The Eugenics Disaster
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Nov. 2015 | Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.

Posted on 11/18/2015 7:51:51 AM PST by fishtank

The Eugenics Disaster

by Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D. *

Evidence for Creation

Imagine yourself a young woman diagnosed as “feeble-minded” and trapped in legal proceedings. You take the defense of your personal autonomy to the Supreme Court and finally hear your name in this decision:

Carrie Buck “is the probable potential parent of socially inadequate offspring, likewise afflicted, that she may be sexually sterilized without detriment to her general health and that her welfare and that of society will be promoted by her sterilization,” and thereupon make the order. [The “order” is compulsory submission to “the operation of salpingectomy…for the purpose of making her sterile.”]1

In Carrie Buck’s failed 1927 Constitutional challenge, the Court upheld a Virginian law that applied Darwinian eugenics (programs selectively propagating the “fitter,” “well born,” or “good races”) to promote state welfare. In its aftermath, eugenics laws in 31 other states were upheld.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: eugenics
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1 posted on 11/18/2015 7:51:51 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank

A look into the whole eugenics movement and some of the “elites” who were all in favor of it is pretty disgusting.


2 posted on 11/18/2015 7:53:46 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

It’s the old battle between a creating, saving, loving God and a destroying, hateful devil.


3 posted on 11/18/2015 7:57:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fishtank

Note: I removed the “dingleberries” from the quoted article to remove the HTML quote-unquote artifacts.

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The Eugenics Disaster
by Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D. *
Evidence for Creation

Imagine yourself a young woman diagnosed as “feeble-minded” and trapped in legal proceedings. You take the defense of your personal autonomy to the Supreme Court and finally hear your name in this decision:

Carrie Buck “is the probable potential parent of socially inadequate offspring, likewise afflicted, that she may be sexually sterilized without detriment to her general health and that her welfare and that of society will be promoted by her sterilization,” and thereupon make the order. [The “order” is compulsory submission to “the operation of salpingectomy for the purpose of making her sterile.”]1

In Carrie Buck’s failed 1927 Constitutional challenge, the Court upheld a Virginian law that applied Darwinian eugenics (programs selectively propagating the “fitter,” “well born,” or “good races”) to promote state welfare. In its aftermath, eugenics laws in 31 other states were upheld.

Excerpted - article at link.


4 posted on 11/18/2015 7:58:25 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank
Hmm where have I heard this before?...


5 posted on 11/18/2015 8:00:20 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: fishtank

I’d submit one could quite well get perfectly literal with the biblical language as to the method of creation (which is ICR’s area of interest) and still if you were not straight on the character of God, you’d miss an important factor that bears on such questions today.

The two are, sadly, not always tied together.


6 posted on 11/18/2015 8:01:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fishtank

The word “Progresive” appears only once in the article, and it is limited to academics. Eugenics was one of the main objectives of the Progressive movement.


7 posted on 11/18/2015 8:05:50 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: fishtank

Eugenics is a cancer upon society.


8 posted on 11/18/2015 8:12:51 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: fishtank

“Three generations of imbeciles are enough.” Few lines from Supreme Court opinions are as memorable as this declaration by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.


9 posted on 11/18/2015 8:16:41 AM PST by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: fishtank

There is little doubt that intelligence is inherited to a large degree (about 0.8). So the idea behind eugenics is not all that crazy.

The problem with it is that humans haven’t achieved sufficient wisdom (or knowledge) to trust them to make those choices.

I’m sure that most freepers decry eugenics, and yet in the same breath they would also bemoan all the welfare queens having so many kids and lowering the nation’s IQ.


10 posted on 11/18/2015 8:23:39 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Just because someone is slow

doesn’t give anyone the right

to end their life.


11 posted on 11/18/2015 8:29:46 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Actually eugenics is not about ending somebody’s life, it’s about keeping them from reproducing.


12 posted on 11/18/2015 8:35:13 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48; fishtank
The idea of eugenics for livestock and pets is not crazy.

It IS, however, crazy for human beings. This is because we are not barnyard animals, owned by others, to be bred or spayed as our masters see fit.

Human Dignity 101.

13 posted on 11/18/2015 8:38:09 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The rifle in the cottage is the symbol of democracy. It's our job to see that it stays there. Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s one thing to argue whether eugenics is dignified or not, it’s totally another to argue whether its scientific basis is sound, as the author tries to do and fails miserably.


14 posted on 11/18/2015 9:00:55 AM PST by aquila48
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To: fishtank

Interesting to me— (though not surprising with the Protestant churches embracing contraception across the board in 1930)— that they named the Catholic Church as their major enemy in 1920.

The Eugenics and Darwinian and Marxism movements (and Malthusian one) are all about the “killing of God” (Christianity only). The Postmodernism/”Progressivism” road to hell.

It is all to erase Christianity-—why? Because all the above want a collective and they want to preside as god themselves, and control the herd of people. And all the Fabians (George Bernard Shaw) “think” there are billions too many on earth. National Geographic burned that image into our heads 24/7—as did the more subtle “Leave it to Beaver” (normalizing two kid families (contraception).

All Postmodernist history, with the destruction of the Natural Family and putting children in these ‘group think’ factories, is for total dehumanization. The system takes children away from their profound natural caring environment, the Natural Family (God’s Design), which embeds normal desires, individuality, trust in parents, and the ability to “Love” self and others, and the clear understanding of Good and Evil which comes from mature moral role models (parents).

We force children into large group environments, puerile role models of people who could care less, which embed evil “feelings” which reject Natural, normal emotions——for fear of man’s rejection, instead of fear of God’s rejection. Group think is the only result-—mass conformity.

We destroy the possibility of emotional health in children (make them haters) and destroy individuality (thinking outside the box/American Christian ethics).

In the 20th century America threw it away for the Prussian system/class system of Germany and England to cattle-ize children and allow the State to embed Athesim/Darwinism/ Humanism (Dewey was a Humanist)——and take history and literally squeeze it through a Marxist/Freudian Lens (forcing sexualization of children and destruction of the Christian Worldview)-—so emotions always will rule Reason.

We wonder what happened to the Christian Mind of Newton and the Founders who were not sexualized and never had hours of mush (white noise) going 24/7 inside their heads by Disney or the Hollywood sodomites and rapers of children (both body and minds).

Leisure to the Ancient Greek philosophers was to LEARN and IMPROVE the Mind—gain Wisdom—not waste a moment.

Entertainment was for relaxation and extremely limited since it was a time of not improving oneself. We now “entertain” our children 24/7 to keep them “dumb” and “ignorant” and from Real Life interactions which embed Wisdom and empathy-—so they are pawns of the sodomite elite and will believe anything like men can be women. They are so pathetic and ignorant they are worse than animals.

Few understand and memorize the Bible anymore-—once the true education of America when there was Common Sense. No Christian apologetics even in the Catholic Church where Truth is arbitrary and “evolving” now. LOL.

We threw education overboard-—and now indoctrinate with puerile, sponge-bob-square-pants-junk-—to waste and destroy the brains of children at ages when Milton and Wilberforce were learning Latin and Greek and memorizing the Bible and mathematics.......and we “wonder” “why?” people have no ability to understand Good and Evil or even “think” . (They have tribal Inca Minds). The college “minds” of today are as pathetic. I know because I went back to school in 2003 and experienced the empty brains and the immoral, lazy attitudes of the students.

Cicero stated correctly—Wisdom is discerning Good and Evil. We erased the curricula, Classical Education/Bible, which gives Knowledge and Wisdom to children. We locked them in Plato’s Cave (in front of artificial screens) and wonder why these idiots in college are so dumb and so angry and so hateful. They were conditioned to be feral animals.

Christianity created the greatest civilizations and freedoms in the entire history of man. Christianity was based on Reasoned Faith, where there are NO contradictions. The Marxists/Darwinians knew for “slaves”, they have to embed “herd” mentality and kill individualism and Natural Law Theory (Reason/Science)-—eliminate Words/Ideas of the Ages——so children grow up like little spoiled tribal minds (Inca worldview)-—where dependency is loved and culture is socialized so they are “happy slaves” of the elite.

Eugenics was always at the whim of the elites/gods.....the herd has no choice in the matter. The gods will decide the billions to be killed and who can reproduce and where and what everyone is allowed to “think” and do. China with Mao was their utopia.


15 posted on 11/18/2015 9:02:48 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: aquila48
Thank you for clarifying your personal assertion that killing someone’s kids before they are born isn't killing anyone.

You can toddle off to the Planned Parenthood threads and assert that a fetus is a blob of goo. You didn't leave yourself any plausible way to assert that your position does not lead to that destination.

Humans have no business dictating who lives and who dies absent a reaction to violence. You included, snowflake.

16 posted on 11/18/2015 9:05:51 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Insigne123

Justice Holmes literally removed Virtue from Justice.

He is who enabled our “Justice System” to become the Vice System of today.

As Montesquieu and Justice Marshall stated-—All Just Law had to promote “public virtue”-—and ALL laws antithetical to the Constitution are “null and void”.

Now, we promote Stalin’s Constitution 24/7-—but it is unconstitutional, of course.


17 posted on 11/18/2015 9:05:56 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: MrEdd

You sound like a liberal making strawman arguments. Is tubal ligation killing anyone?

And I’m not pushing for eugenics - I don’t trust mankind to do that. My only point is that the basis of eugenics, i.e. that intelligence is mostly inherited, is valid. The article is a mess of nonsense in trying to say otherwise.


18 posted on 11/18/2015 9:21:07 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Breeding does have a scientific basis on a veterinary level.


19 posted on 11/18/2015 9:23:58 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (The rifle in the cottage is the symbol of democracy. It's our job to see that it stays there. Orwell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

On humans too. When you chose Don, did you pay attention to his attributes?

Stop pretending and at least accept reality - even if sometimes it doesn’t fit your illusions.


20 posted on 11/18/2015 9:33:55 AM PST by aquila48
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