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What would deporting 11 million people look like?
The Orange County Register ^ | November 14, 2015 | Franco Odonez

Posted on 11/14/2015 4:39:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

WASHINGTON – Conservative presidential candidates speak casually of deporting 11 million people, but what they don’t say is what it would cost, what it would take and the long odds of success.

Some researchers who have considered such a possibility envision the expansion of federal fugitive operations teams that would fan out through rural areas arresting immigrant workers picking strawberries. Poultry plants would be raided and teachers and doctors could be tasked with reporting those who seek services. The costs: as high as $300 billion....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cruz; deportation; immigration; trump
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To: Chickensoup

We think alike, Chickensoup. I too will say, hey, what a genius idea Mexico had. Outsource your poverty! Every country in the world has to take care of their poor. Except Mexico: they found another country to do it for them!

The perspective change really does shut them up.


61 posted on 11/14/2015 4:57:08 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lefties never talk about the cost when they’re having wet dreams about confiscating guns though, do they?


62 posted on 11/14/2015 4:57:21 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would look like a damn good start


63 posted on 11/14/2015 4:57:40 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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it would look like an orderly withdrawal, you simply fine every company/owner employing illegals $100,000 EACH... and if caught again, another $100,000 and a year in jail, EACH!!!
64 posted on 11/14/2015 4:57:57 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Something like this?


65 posted on 11/14/2015 4:58:03 PM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What would deporting 11 million people look like?

Morning in America.

66 posted on 11/14/2015 4:59:28 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The costs: as high as $300 billion.”

1. That is how much the illegals cost per year now.

2. We spent over a trillion dollars in Iraq, Afghanistan, with thousands of dead and wounded soldiers.

3. We have spent trillions of dollars fighting for other countries, with tens of thousands of dead and wounded soldiers.

3. The cost in lost wages for Americans exceeds that by a factor of what?

4. When you look at it, $300 billion dollars is a small amount to pay to begin the restoration of the country.


67 posted on 11/14/2015 4:59:52 PM PST by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pretty close to heaven...


68 posted on 11/14/2015 5:00:00 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Not just fine. Make any illegal worker not be eligible as a deduction on the corporate books, and make it retroactive for 10 years.(lots of tax filing updates with the info on illegals) If they are claimed for taxes $1,000,000 in criminal penalties per individual, class b felony and the problem goes away.


69 posted on 11/14/2015 5:00:07 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The costs: as high as $300 billion....

Nonsense. That is $1,000 per American, or $27,000 per illegal. We could fly the entire country to South America for that price, complete with TSA groping each of us.

The actual price of immigration law enforcement would be dramatically less, if the goal was to succeed rather than to prove it impossible:

Step 1 is to round up the illegals who are convicted felons and deport them once their prison sentences are completed. Cost? Less than $500 per felon - a great investment.

Step 2 is to stop illegals who are apprehended at the border and keep them there until they can be sent home, instead of releasing them into the community with an insincere promise to return for a hearing in a few years. Cost? About $20 per day per criminal to keep them from benefiting from their crime, but they would rather go home quickly than sit in a tent city for months before inevitably going home, so it would not take many days per criminal before they wanted to leave.

Step 3 is to allow overwhelmed school districts or concerned adults in those districts to report illegals and to go to their homes of record. If the address is correct, rounding up the criminals is cheap (pretty much gas that would have been used anyways for the police/ICE, plus a couple days of food). If the address is a fake, they can be expelled from the school, again saving money.

Step 4 is the cute one - start charging illegals for the costs of enforcement against them, confiscate property to pay the cost of sending them home and of any frivolous legal delays they attempt to create, and keep them in custody until the final court decision sends them home.

Average cost per criminal illegal (and all illegals are by definition criminals) deported? Less than $500. It's a tiny faction of the cost of educating their children in our schools and of caring for them in our hospitals. Deporting criminals saves money. Average cost for the illegals who leave on their own ("self-deport") - nothing at all, and they would leave if staying were no longer profitable.

What about compassion?
- I cannot think of anything more compassionate for the unemployed Americans than to protect their jobs from illegals who work for far less and often without written records.
- I cannot think of anything more compassionate for Americans who need assistance than to conserve those scarce funds and use them for people who are from our country.
- I cannot think of anything more compassionate for foreign workers than to make sure they come here legally, so they make more money and have better access to the services that those who belong here should have.
Protecting our borders is the compassionate choice.

70 posted on 11/14/2015 5:00:41 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Jane Austen

just wish these ass hats would understand the costs should we do nothing


71 posted on 11/14/2015 5:00:58 PM PST by maine hunter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The premise of deportation is wrong. What would it look like if there was no funding for illegal aliens. No schools, no medical, no food stamps. They will leave. It is called a exodus. ...they will “self-deport.” Why is it illegal o feed bears and alligators? They become dependent and aggressive for more dependency...and you have to kill them to solve the problem handouts to these people will kill somebody...us or them.


72 posted on 11/14/2015 5:02:04 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trebuchet?


73 posted on 11/14/2015 5:02:54 PM PST by MortMan (I am offended by those who believe they have a right not to be offended.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, it would cost a lot, but think about the costs saved in welfare, food stamps, medical care, education, law enforcement, prisons, etc., and then all of the young Americans who would have those entry level jobs, and could start on their way up the economic ladder, not stuck on the bottom on food stamps, going nowhere. Think of the reduced costs of housing, less wear and tear on our infrastructure, etc!


74 posted on 11/14/2015 5:04:38 PM PST by erkelly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$300 billion (which is BS) even if accurate, is chump change to stop the physical, moral and economic damage illegals are doing to this county.

We could get a decent chunk of that amount by eliminating government benefits and phony tax refunds to illegals.

136,000 AMERICANS murdered by illegal aliens. What price do we put on each of those lives???


75 posted on 11/14/2015 5:04:48 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would like a huge ruckus. The rats, MSM and many other’s of the left would just whine and whine. The employers that hired them would need to find someone else.

The dems would do whatever they could to trip it up, as they’d lose millions of potential voters.

Parts of the economy they worked in would be temporarily put upside down until they could figure out how to hire willing US Citizens.

Eventually, after a few years, there would hopefully be a new norm, in that illegals would be just a few, a wall would be up, and maybe the American culture would survive.


76 posted on 11/14/2015 5:05:00 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What would it look like?

It would feel like a breath of fresh air that our borders are sovereign.

It would set an example to the rest of the world the USA will not put up with a bunch of scoundrels who think they can live off the dole wherever that might be.

It would be a good start to remove 11 million as there are probably another 11 million hiding in the bushes.


77 posted on 11/14/2015 5:06:23 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe making mexico deal with their problems instead of pushing them off on the US perhaps?

Mexico is a wealthy nation. Make them take care of their own for a change, or make them pay the US dearly if they refuse.

78 posted on 11/14/2015 5:07:25 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A dream come true.


79 posted on 11/14/2015 5:08:24 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I keep saying it.
Put a bounty on them.
And start a reality show.. “Wetback bounty hunters”.


80 posted on 11/14/2015 5:11:27 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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