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Will Our Values Make Us Seek Peace With Genocide?
American Spectator ^ | 11/12/15 | John C. Wohlstetter

Posted on 11/12/2015 3:10:06 AM PST by markomalley

When Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Hitler got the idea of perpetrating the Holocaust from Haj Amin al-Husseini, as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1922 to 1948 spiritual leader of the Arabs in Palestine, he predictably ignited a firestorm. In fact, as this Israel Network video (4:56) shows, the mufti’s role in the Nazi genocidal enterprise was that of eager collaborator and cheerleader, though not as instigator. (He also eagerly incorporated Soviet communism into his totalitarian arsenal.)

Scholar Jeffrey Herf recently addressed this issue in a Times of Israel posting: 

The now widely accepted international consensus among historians of the Holocaust is that Hitler had both made the decisions to implement the Final Solution and had communicated those decisions to key actors in the Nazi regime at the latest a month before his meeting with Husseini on November 28th.…

…Hitler had referred to “the total destruction of the Judeo-Communist empire in Europe.… It is [in] the extension of the Final Solution beyond the shores of Europe… that Haj Amin al-Husseini came to play a prominent role.”

But Bibi’s overstatement raises anew the Nazi-Arab connection; the Simon Wiesenthal Center has called on Congress to defund the Palestinian Authority for publishing a Nazi-era children’s book. Bibi’s remarks, juxtaposed with the Palestinian campaign to knife Jews inside Israel, and ferocious opposition to cameras on Temple Mount that would detect Palestinian abuse of Muslim holy places, tees up a long overdue reassessment of what passes for the “peace process” between Israel and the Palestinians.

Herf cites Netanyahu’s clarification of his original remarks, as being absolutely on point: 


(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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1 posted on 11/12/2015 3:10:06 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Mass killings and deportations of religious minorities certainly had its roots with earlier manifestations of totalitarian rule. In 1915, leaders of the Turkish government (under Muslim-majority control) set in motion a plan to expel and massacre Armenians, who were Christians living in the Ottoman Empire. Though reports vary, most sources agree that there were about 2 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire at the time of the massacre. By the early 1920s, when the massacres and deportations finally ended, some 1.5 million of Turkey’s Armenians were dead, with many more forcibly removed from the country. Today, most historians call this event a genocide–a premeditated and systematic campaign to exterminate an entire people. To this day, Turkish officials refuse to acknowledge that anything ever happened, and in fact, it is illegal to bring up the question in Turkey even now.

Both Stalin and Hitler took these examples to heart, and applied similar measures in their own countries as the opportunity arose. The Nazis, meticulous people that they were, kept very complete and tidy records, so we KNOW their perfidy, but the Soviets, many of whom were near-total illiterates, were much more casual, so the totals in Russia shall never be known.


2 posted on 11/12/2015 3:40:08 AM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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To: alloysteel

Naturally, this article omits the greatest mass murder in human history: Mao Tse-Tung, racking up a whopping 76,700,00 odd.


3 posted on 11/12/2015 3:59:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: markomalley

Judeo-Communist empire. There may be something to that.


4 posted on 11/12/2015 4:13:02 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: PIF

A link to Rummell’s 20th Century Democide page belongs here.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM


5 posted on 11/12/2015 4:39:13 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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6 posted on 11/12/2015 5:25:40 AM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: markomalley

How does this relate to the European Genocide that is happening today?


7 posted on 11/12/2015 5:36:54 AM PST by The Toll
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To: alloysteel

“Peace In Our Time”...Chamberlain redux. Keep re-proving history.


8 posted on 11/12/2015 5:59:49 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: FreedomPoster

Too bad his links are screwed up.

There is some controversy about Japan’s totals since many of the deaths were whole families of draft resistors and never recorded, same for experimental subjects in Manchuria.

People are always so quick to name Hitler are the epitome of an evil murderer when in truth he was a piker compared to Stalin and Mao.


9 posted on 11/12/2015 6:12:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

The links to Hawaii.edu mostly work. The Blogspot links can be found by fiddling with the Wayback Machine at Archive.org

See here, for instance:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070612105019/http://freedomspeace.blogspot.com/2005/11/reevaluating-chinas-democide-to-be.html

A useful thing for all sorts of old material.


10 posted on 11/12/2015 6:19:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PIF

Oh, and further, the Left don’t like talking about Stalin and Mao. And they really hate it when you point out that Hitler was a Socialist, in name and deed.


11 posted on 11/12/2015 6:20:01 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks. I saw that as a choice on searching but gave up and moved on.


12 posted on 11/12/2015 6:32:44 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: markomalley

The Israeli PM understands History as only a warrior can.
The politician—the “diplomat” the secular believes only in the power of diplomacy and the goodness of all men.
A lot of harm is done when men forget there is Evil int his world— and not all men are to be trusted to do what is in the best interest of the greater good. Bury with Soldiers! as the song sings to me.


13 posted on 11/12/2015 8:17:13 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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Values, yeah, good one. Thanks markomalley.

14 posted on 11/13/2015 12:27:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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