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Will Kelo Decision Finally Sink Donald Trump?
PJ Media ^ | 11/05/2015 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 11/05/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by Freemeorkillme

Donald Trump’s high standing in the polls is attributable entirely to the fact that he’s not a Washington insider, not part of the racket, and despite his wealth really might actually give a damn about the Little Guy. So why is he saying things like this?

Donald Trump on Wednesday defended government property seizures as a “necessary thing,” even when it means involuntarily taking property from a private owner to transfer it to another business. Trump was speaking to reporters outside the capital statehouse moments before formally filing his candidacy for the February primary, and the Washington Examiner pressed him on his record of using eminent domain laws to expand his casino empire.

“Property rights are a big issue in New Hampshire,” the Examiner noted. “In Atlantic City you used eminent domain laws aggressively to expand your casino.”

Trump interjected by calling this a “stupid question” before launching into a defense of eminent domain. ”I am all for private property rights,” Trump said. “There’s nobody who wants property taken away less than I do, believe me. I would lose a lot of money if my property were taken away. But when you’re building a road, when you’re building a highway, when you’re building whatever it is you’re building from a municipal standpoint, you may need a corner of a piece of property.” As he said this, he pinched his fingers together to demonstrate the smallness of the property.

The abstract reasoning may be sound — although in the Supreme Court’s disgraceful Kelo decision it certainly was not — but the optics are terrible. It smacks of Romneyism, a cluelessness about how ordinary people live their lives.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; ancientsleepertroll; connecticut; davidsouter; election2016; elections; eminentdomain; ibtz; kelo; kelodecision; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nevertrumpertrolls; newhampshire; newlondon; newyork; nonsense; ntsa; stfu; trump; trumpcomment; trumpeminentdomain
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To: Lurking Libertarian

How about welfare reform coupled with an end to sovereign immunity? That would knock out all the trouble with lawless immigration.


221 posted on 11/05/2015 2:32:46 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Freemeorkillme

It was kind of hard to read your post, with all those funny characters in it.


222 posted on 11/05/2015 2:38:34 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: thackney

Didn’t say it had been done I said Kelo opened the door that it could be done.


223 posted on 11/05/2015 2:41:06 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Freemeorkillme

No candidate is perfect. Time the Punditry grow up and quit looking for pathetic nonsense to attack Trump with.

On the list of issues facing this country Trump scored well on the top 50. That he is squishy on the 51st issue is not a reason for concern.


224 posted on 11/05/2015 2:44:33 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: GilGil

lol


225 posted on 11/05/2015 2:45:03 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: IMR 4350

Not where I live.

http://www.pillsburylaw.com/siteFiles/Publications/ELUNRRealEstateAlertTexasEminentDomainLaws060211_final.pdf


226 posted on 11/05/2015 2:45:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Freemeorkillme
It's not such a black & white issue. They bought my dad's house in San Diego for much more than he could have sold it for. And, it facilitated an interstate highway. Vera Coking apparently was in for the money as she is trying to sue Trump because her house lost value when he built around it. I guess keeping him out of Atlantic City altogether was also her right.

As I said, there's lots of pieces to eminent domain which probably should get sorted out. However, using it as a political tool doesn't help.

227 posted on 11/05/2015 2:48:02 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon; rodguy911

As opposed to the 10% of Freepers who start screaming hysteric emotional hyperbolic tirades the minute they hear the name “Trump” mentioned.


228 posted on 11/05/2015 2:51:07 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: John Valentine

“no bar to your county government taking you house and land at a song”

The Constitution protects you against that and that Constitutional protection was not abrogated by the Kelo decision.

Eminent domain laws require market value reparations; most states have passed protective laws outlawing what you fear; the Supreme Court is the body that made the Kelo decision; Trump has never taken or advocated anyone having their property taken for a song; if Trump were president he still would have no authority over taking your property.

As Trump stated, he has plenty of property and doesn’t want anyone messing with it.

It is not your property that you should be worried about; your country and your freedom are already being taken from you as you haggle over a Supreme Court decision that Trump had nothing to do with. If amnesty comes in, you WILL be dispossessed of everything you have.


229 posted on 11/05/2015 2:51:33 PM PST by odawg
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To: mbarker12474

I had to search a little to find it, but here’s the video. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-says-government-property-seizures-are-necessary-thing/article/2575631

He spoke mainly about using eminent domain for building necessary infrastructure, but he also defended using it to benefit big business. We little people are just too stupid to understand how necessary it is.


230 posted on 11/05/2015 2:53:15 PM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: John Valentine

Trump never built any casinos in AC with eminant domain. The buildings were already there. This is a issue to people who want to distract from the real issues.


231 posted on 11/05/2015 2:55:09 PM PST by conservative98
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To: American Constitutionalist

“Don’t know how the Trump supporters can defend and justify Donald Trump defending government taking away private property away from private property owners.”

Read the Constitution.

If you don’t like eminent domain, get an amendment.


232 posted on 11/05/2015 2:59:17 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: thackney

I already said “in some states” so I didn’t think it was necessary to repeat myself.

In 1992 B Clinton made the comment he didn’t believe any of the nations “natural resources” should belong to an individual but should belong to the nation as a whole.

Just because you owned the land he didn’t believe that meant you owned the natural resources on or beneath the surface because “natural resources” means belonging to the country.

I don’t have a doubt Kelo is the first step in seizing the “natural resources” from the rightful owners.


233 posted on 11/05/2015 3:02:32 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

I know,I was making fun of the nay-sayers


234 posted on 11/05/2015 3:02:44 PM PST by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

Duly noted.


235 posted on 11/05/2015 3:03:42 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: IMR 4350

You started this conversation in post #193 talking about “my” mineral rights.

I live in Texas.


236 posted on 11/05/2015 3:05:02 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’m not sure that as president he can do much about eminent domain one way or the other. Unless, of course, he knocks down the White House to put up a casino.

This would be an improvement.

237 posted on 11/05/2015 3:05:29 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: odawg

I tried to explain to you that the “Taking” language was a rational understanding at the time, that has been bastardized since and was never intended to mean that under that clause, the local and state authorities also had the right of seizure with compensation automatically. It only applied to the federal government and under state law it conflicts with private property rights.

Now the federal governments’ interests may under circumstances often move into the interstate area, as in the building of a highway, the building of military bases, the building of anything that benefits the collective “all” or “we”.

But it never was intended to aid a private enterprise in it’s search for profits, nor the local city government in search of tax revenue.

If you see it otherwise, then yes, you got a brain washing at some point by some special interests.


238 posted on 11/05/2015 3:08:36 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Cruz was not looking for cheap labor...he was looking for gifted or already educated professionals that can benefit the US.

We have gifted and already educated Americans, but they cost more.

239 posted on 11/05/2015 3:19:32 PM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: Freemeorkillme

Although I like a lot of what Trump says, it’s things like this that is why I don’t trust him.

Ted Cruz remains my first choice.


240 posted on 11/05/2015 3:21:27 PM PST by Angels27
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