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Will Kelo Decision Finally Sink Donald Trump?
PJ Media ^ | 11/05/2015 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 11/05/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by Freemeorkillme

Donald Trump’s high standing in the polls is attributable entirely to the fact that he’s not a Washington insider, not part of the racket, and despite his wealth really might actually give a damn about the Little Guy. So why is he saying things like this?

Donald Trump on Wednesday defended government property seizures as a “necessary thing,” even when it means involuntarily taking property from a private owner to transfer it to another business. Trump was speaking to reporters outside the capital statehouse moments before formally filing his candidacy for the February primary, and the Washington Examiner pressed him on his record of using eminent domain laws to expand his casino empire.

“Property rights are a big issue in New Hampshire,” the Examiner noted. “In Atlantic City you used eminent domain laws aggressively to expand your casino.”

Trump interjected by calling this a “stupid question” before launching into a defense of eminent domain. ”I am all for private property rights,” Trump said. “There’s nobody who wants property taken away less than I do, believe me. I would lose a lot of money if my property were taken away. But when you’re building a road, when you’re building a highway, when you’re building whatever it is you’re building from a municipal standpoint, you may need a corner of a piece of property.” As he said this, he pinched his fingers together to demonstrate the smallness of the property.

The abstract reasoning may be sound — although in the Supreme Court’s disgraceful Kelo decision it certainly was not — but the optics are terrible. It smacks of Romneyism, a cluelessness about how ordinary people live their lives.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: New York
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To: dforest

Eminent Domain for PUBLIC use is in the Constitution. The outrageous Kelo decision expanded this to include any PRIVATE use that might potentially bring in an extra nickel of taxes.


81 posted on 11/05/2015 10:53:44 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: entropy12

Cruz was not looking for cheap labor...he was looking for gifted or already educated professionals that can benefit the US. Why would you intentionally ignore that?

The cheap labor issues and or misuse of the H1B program can be dealt with through legislation, but it’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater when every country in the West has a equivalent for this program.

I see this as a knee jerk isolationist move by some and I reject it. We are talking about a small portion of the Visa system, and I agree that the entire thing needs overhauling, but not eliminated.

We simply need to regain control, and once we do, we can use the tools we have like a hiatus, or in H1B we can require that a corporation justify it’s wages and needs, and the protections of current employees if it wants to participate.

To be flat out against H1B is foolish IMO. Like everything else in this current regime, it has been exploited, but we can stop that. If you don’t believe we can, then what’s the point in continuing the farce that is the once venerable USA.

Let’s just kill it and be done with it. A failed experiment.


82 posted on 11/05/2015 10:56:06 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: skeeter
It's not government taking it for government's use. It's constituent A vs. constituent B and the government getting involved. Then the government comes up with some kind of formula deciding who gets what. My guess, big money will always win because governments are greedy.
83 posted on 11/05/2015 10:56:29 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Freemeorkillme
Will Kelo Decision Finally Sink Donald Trump?

No, because not enough people give a dam' about property rights any more. Not even on FR.

84 posted on 11/05/2015 10:56:53 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: mbarker12474

How often is the President involved in eminent domain matters compared to being involved in stopping the millions of illegal aliens that are pouring across the border?


85 posted on 11/05/2015 10:57:10 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: entropy12; Calpublican
If Cruz was not pushing for the cheap labor express of H1-B visa foreign workers and expansion of cheap labor immigrants, I would support him.

Agree

86 posted on 11/05/2015 10:57:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

The president does not make that decision. The supreme Court did. States can can do something about it.

I am much more worried about illegal immigration. If we have open borders, nothing else will matter. We will be over as a country.


87 posted on 11/05/2015 10:57:46 AM PST by dforest
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To: georgiegirl

OK....Then that presupposes that everyone buys or owns property for a monetary gain.

But that’s simply not the case.


88 posted on 11/05/2015 10:59:02 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

What Trump said about ED yesterday, watch. The link goes straight to the question; https://youtu.be/9mOxWDBIAwk?t=690

In fact watch the whole video. Its’ raw unedited and starts when Trump gets out of his vehicle to go file in NH. It spontaneously turns into a press conference and rally.

Trump may not be perfect, but he is the only candidate generating the support and turnout it will take to beat Hillary.


89 posted on 11/05/2015 10:59:27 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: miss marmelstein

The president can’t do spit about abortion either, but a lot of Freepers seem to think it’s important that candidates take a stand.


90 posted on 11/05/2015 10:59:33 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Most FReepers are as socialist as Obama and too dumb to know it.

You bump yer head or something?

91 posted on 11/05/2015 10:59:42 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Freemeorkillme

No.


92 posted on 11/05/2015 11:01:12 AM PST by aquila48
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To: odawg
Due process of property means restitution by government based on current marke

Yeah....lol......where did you learn that? Must have been a re-education camp..

93 posted on 11/05/2015 11:01:14 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: American Constitutionalist

Who is talking about abortion or gay marriage? The topic requested input on Emminant Domain, and I gave it, as I understand it. It isn’t my cause or anything.


94 posted on 11/05/2015 11:01:18 AM PST by georgiegirl
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon; American Constitutionalist

Watch what Trump actually said - post 66


95 posted on 11/05/2015 11:02:18 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: rodguy911

The Don could barbecue live puppies over hot coals while urinating on an original copy of the Constitution, and there’d still be lots of Freepers left to shout “Woooooohooo!!! Go get ‘em, Trump!!!!”


96 posted on 11/05/2015 11:02:27 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means....)
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To: dforest

Yes but the President chooses the Supreme Court Justices.


97 posted on 11/05/2015 11:03:14 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (Donald Trump: New York City Liberal)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
If they cared about Trump's conservatism (or lack thereof), or his views on the powers of the Federal government, they would have abandoned Trump months ago.

Then we have every tiny peccadillo from the Trump haters who don't care about this issue, but a way to cry like a little girl about Trump.

" Trump is polling in the neighborhood of ~25%, and has been for months--he's hit his ceiling, and for good reason.

Not really GOPe guy and you are. You believe those NBCLSD polling.

" Trump is polling in the neighborhood of ~25%, and has been for months--he's hit his ceiling, and for good reason.

Trump is really several pointS higher.


98 posted on 11/05/2015 11:03:56 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: dynoman

I watched the video. He was misleading—notice how he kept minimizing the amount of land taken in eminent domain as a “little corner of land” or somesuch? That’s not always the case. Very often it’s peoples entire homes, entire plots of land that are taken. Just ask Vera Coking.

He was also dead wrong on the facts. Eminent domain is often (and constitutionally) used for public uses—infrastructure projects, etc. But what the Kelo decision said (and what Trump has tried to do in his business life) is that it can also be used to obtain land for private developments, as long as the development would increase tax revenue. How any conservative could even think of supporting that is absolutely incredible.


99 posted on 11/05/2015 11:03:58 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: HarleyLady27

Cruz would/should never take the VP job...he’s running for president...if he did, I would not be inclined to approve of that.

If he loses he will run again..The VP is a trash position, as illustrated by Joe Biden.


100 posted on 11/05/2015 11:04:18 AM PST by Cold Heat
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