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Sanders is more American than Ayn Rand: Dem socialism will always trump free-market selfishness
Salon ^ | November 3, 2015 | Paul Buchheit

Posted on 11/03/2015 1:58:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Like Cruz reminded us, author is a Menshevik - ultimately a democratic centralist (majority rule, rights of the minority be damned) with Russia the prime example of how well that turns out (and Bernie is already condoning long lines for limited products).


21 posted on 11/03/2015 3:50:23 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Trump/Cruz - Because you gotta win, first.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is selfish to want to steal other peoples money.


22 posted on 11/03/2015 3:57:28 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: arthurus

The most moral arguments for capitalism come from Ayn Rand.


23 posted on 11/03/2015 4:01:42 AM PST by Raymann
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“Free market selfishness” capialism! is thier fuel, with out it thier cause dies and so do they


24 posted on 11/03/2015 4:03:26 AM PST by ronnie raygun (better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

25 posted on 11/03/2015 4:22:24 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: ronnie raygun

Yes. Good point. Who are they going to rob once they have spent all the capitalists’ money?


26 posted on 11/03/2015 4:36:03 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: lowbridge; All

Jan 2015:

“In Venezuela, a plunge in oil prices, the country’s main export, has turned a goods shortage problem into an unmitigated national disaster, but the tragedy seems lost on the country’s food minister, Yvan Jose Bello Rojas.

Venezuelans can wait in grocery-store lines for days to find products that may not even be on the shelves-this has been the case for over a year. But when a reporter asked Rojas if he ever waits in lines, he said:

“I’ve been in tons of lines. I went to my favorite sports team’s game this weekend, and I had to get in line to get a parking space. I got in line to buy my ticket. And then ... I made a line to get into the stadium. And you know what, I made a line to find my seat. And then you know what,” Bello finished with satisfaction, “I went to go buy an arepa [Venezuelan sandwich] ... and I had to wait in line there, too.”

Reporter Ana Vanessa Herrero then asked him about a woman she’d recently interviewed who was looking for diapers for two days and couldn’t find them.

“She’s exaggerating,” he said, “no one would wait in line for six days for anything,” he added, interrupting the chorus of reporters throwing out anecdotes to the contrary.

Earlier in the seven-minute interview Bello explained the shortage problem was not due to an unbalanced Venezuelan economy manipulated by government price regulation and bloated by government spending, but due to issues with distribution.

“The same people can’t just go and buy the same products every day,” Rojas said matter-of-factly, adding that one person couldn’t possibly buy one gallon of milk per day, for example, even if they had the money to do it. “More than anything [the shortage] is a distribution problem because if any government has done their homework on food, it’s this Bolivaran government.”...

http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-food-minister-dismiss-shortages-2015-1


27 posted on 11/03/2015 4:36:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Americans have been deceived by the notion that individual desires preempt the needs of society; by the Ayn-Rand/Reagan/Thatcher aversion to government regulation; by the distorted image of ‘freedom’ as winner-take-all capitalism;

What a crock! The “needs” of society are provided by individuals striving for their individual betterment. When the individual prospers, all of society prospers.


28 posted on 11/03/2015 4:37:00 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Where to start? What a selfish and blind person this one is..

First, since it's an easy target, this guy is a college ‘teacher’. Universities with huge endowments (some over 30 billion dollars) are designated ‘tax free’, while paying administrators, deans, etc. salaries that are often into 7 figures. The communities in which they are located often have significant poverty, but the universities just don't pay taxes. So take the plank out of your own eye first would be a legitimate suggestion.

Second, it's not the ‘super rich’ who make our decisions for us as much as it is the super entitled and the super connected. This includes people like Nancy Pelosi, and Obama, and Harry Reid, and John McCain, and Boehner, and all of those who control what ‘news’ the rest of the populace hears - and what spin will be put on it, and those who decide what to teach at schools and universities - and what spin is put on it.

Third, ‘equality’ and ‘fairness’ are just words, and clearly the ranks of the left are overflowing with hypocrisy in their attempts to crown themselves the champions of what these words are supposed to represent. Freedom is also a word, as is ‘wealth’. One could argue that being free to self-determine is the ultimate test of whether ones life is ‘fair’ or not, yet the policies you espouse suppress freedom, and suppress the ability of individuals to benefit from their own efforts.

If you want everyone to be equal, Paul, then give me equal time to speak to your students and rebut your points. Given me equal time to speak on the networks, or CSPAN and in front of Congress as the career politicians have. While you're at it, let's mandate that ‘instructors’ at all universities make the same salary as the university President. To be fair, you can base those salaries on hours worked.

Actually, the biggest hypocrisy of all from those who push the same stale concepts that you are pushing, is that ultimately you are pushing the suppression of the individual, and the suppression of the rights of individual citizens to distinguish their lives and find meaning in their lives in their own way. All the while, you support those individuals in government, and the media, and the entertainment industry who distinguish themselves by their titles, and their ‘soapboxes’ from which they tell the rest of us how to live. Try addressing a President, or Senator, or Congressman by their first name instead of their title. Try calling a judge by their first name instead of ‘your honor’. Their positions are a form of ‘wealth’, and is part of their compensation. The left lives on hierarchy as much or more than anyone else in society, and have no claim whatsoever on ‘fairness’ or ‘equality’.

Try using the definition that ‘equality’ is the equal right of individuals to self-determine. Oh, and please send us your tax return so that we can see just how ‘fair’ individuals like yourself live their lives.

29 posted on 11/03/2015 4:39:54 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Adder
“What a crock! The “needs�€ of society are provided by individuals striving for their individual betterment. When the individual prospers, all of society prospers.”

Yes. Thank you. You said in a sentence what I tried to say with many more words.

30 posted on 11/03/2015 4:41:17 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: PhilDragoo

The man’s head is f’ed up.


31 posted on 11/03/2015 4:52:51 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

bttt


32 posted on 11/03/2015 5:27:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: olezip
Americans have been deceived by the notion that individual desires preempt the needs of society; by the Ayn-Rand/Reagan/Thatcher aversion to government regulation; by the distorted image of 'freedom' as winner-take-all capitalism; by the assurance that the benefits of greed will spread downwards to everyone.

Wow, people actually buy that!?

Being Godless sure does put one in the dark.

33 posted on 11/03/2015 5:31:34 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Now I understand why my grandparents quit voting.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Another fartbag who does a far better job demonstrating his ignorance about Ayn Rand and her philosophy than deconstructing it.


34 posted on 11/03/2015 6:31:59 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Adder

Yes but that’s too much work. for the Left it’s all about the socialism and redistribution of (someone else’s) wealth.


35 posted on 11/03/2015 6:55:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

very good, thanks for sharing


36 posted on 11/03/2015 7:04:25 AM PST by Loud Mime (Honor the Commandments because they're not suggestions; stop gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: PhilDragoo

I believe Obamacare is a great example of the effects of socialism.. Many people have dropped out of the workforce (at 35-yr lows) so they can qualify for Medicaid. The alternative is to get a job and pay sky-high premiums for a plan with high deductibles.


37 posted on 11/03/2015 10:19:11 AM PST by Kenny500c
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

Rand ping. This is an anti-Rand article that pits Bernie Sanders against Rand as the prophet of the future.


38 posted on 11/03/2015 10:49:51 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The word “idiocy” has a synonym, “Salon”.


39 posted on 11/03/2015 11:03:20 AM PST by Richard Axtell (The March to the Abyss is speeding up.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NO recognition that some, if not most, of the country’s most prestigious colleges were founded with funding by religious organizations (Princeton, Northwestern, Syracuse) or very wealthy individuals (think Stanford and Duke)


40 posted on 11/03/2015 11:11:32 AM PST by EDINVA
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