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Donald Trump Delenda Est
Red State ^ | October 27, 2015 | Leon Wolf

Posted on 10/27/2015 2:01:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

I got an email from a conservative Hill staffer who is generally supportive of Trump yesterday in response to the Monday edition of the RedState Morning Briefing. The email said, verbatim, “Do you guys write anything but anti-Trump articles anymore?” I want to try to answer what I think this question was asking as honestly and without rancor as I can, and explain why I, in particular, keep coming back to the subject of Trump and the danger he poses.

First, I think it is facially obvious just by clicking on the RedState front page that we write about a whole lot that has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump. Over the weekend, Trump went on a much-covered media blitz during which he did and said several newsworthy (not in a positive way) things. So we were not alone in spending significant time covering Trump’s remarks about Carson, Hillary, Ford Motor Company, and the rest of the GOP field in fairly great detail over the weekend. Even so, we had numerous posts over the weekend about Hillary, the VA Scandal, Seattle’s minimum wage hike, College Football, Ben Carson, and even St. Crispin’s Day.

That having been said, the person who asked this question was really asking why we have had so many negative articles about Trump recently, and that’s a fair question, even granted the outsized portion of media attention that Trump commands. Here I will speak only for myself: I write about Trump so much because I consider him to be an existential threat to the conservative movement – a greater existential threat than any candidate currently running for President, including Hillary. Let me explain.

Let me first of all establish some bona fides, so people know where I am coming from here. I am not one of those people who says they are conservative yet always ends up supporting the establishment candidate when the chips are down. I’ve been writing at RedState here for over 10 years now and all of what I’m about to say is a matter of public record even if some of it is in archives that I’m no longer able to search effectively. In literally every contest that’s occurred since 2008 I’ve stood publicly against liberal establishment candidates in primaries whenever there was an even marginally more conservative option available. Going back in history:

I supported Chris McDaniel against Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) 37% in Mississippi.

I supported Matt Bevin against Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 57% in Kentucky.

I supported Milton Wolf over Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) 58% in Kansas.

I supported Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% over Dewhurst and have repeatedly supported every one of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100%‘s crusades against Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 57% in the Senate.

I supported Richard Mourdock over Dick Lugar in Indiana.

I supported Rubio over Crist in Florida.

I supported Toomey over Specter and called Newt Gingrich an establishment sellout for siding with Specter.

I could go on, but I don’t want to belabor the point – the point being, I am not one of the people who has looked down their noses at tea party members or conservatives who have become fed up with the status quo in Washington and who have mounted campaigns in support of “extremist” conservative challengers. Rather, I have long been one of those people who has had the Establishment looking down their nose at me. Look at that list again – that’s a public record of supporting the more conservative challenger pretty much every time I had the opportunity – including some challengers who suffered some embarrassingly huge losses in both the primary and the general.

Look, the people who look at the fact that I oppose Trump and therefore automatically assume that I’m a RINO or establishment hack are so embarrassingly far off the mark that it’s hard to know where to begin responding. I don’t oppose Trump because I’m opposed to insurgent conservative candidates; I oppose Trump because I support insurgent conservative candidates.

I have made a public career of supporting conservative challengers to liberal Republicans. Donald Trump is not one of these. Not only is he not one of these, but he is a freeloading cancer on the movement as a whole. He has misappropriated the credit for the accomplishments of others, he has pretended to be the standard bearer for a movement he does not even belong to, and if he wins the nomination, the evidence suggests that he will suddenly lose his fighting spirit when confronted with his good friend Hillary as opposed to actual conservative Republicans.

The reason we spent so much digital ink on Trump this weekend is this: while you might not have been watching, Donald Trump concluded that he’s already won the Republican nomination, and is letting his general election flag fly. And that flag has a giant donkey on it, as Noah Rothman at Commentary correctly notes:

As Trump has encountered a potent rival in the form of Dr. Ben Carson, he has taken to differentiating himself from the candidate by, among other things like attacking his “energy” level and questioning his faith, contending that Carson would reform entitlements. “Ben Carson wants to abolish Medicare – I want to save it and Social Security,” Trump wrote on his Twitter account on Sunday evening. This was a flip-flop in record time. Not hours ago, Trump appeared on ABC News where he was asked if he would support health savings accounts in order to render Medicare unnecessary. “Well, it’s possible,” he told host George Stephanopoulos. “I think it’s a very good idea, and it’s an idea whose probably time has come.” Apparently that time came and went in the interim between breakfast and dinner on Sunday.

A creature of the media, it is rarely wise to underestimate Trump’s willingness to parrot the dominant narrative in the press. The latest and least well-founded contention among media professionals is that the Benghazi select committee’s questioning of Hillary Clinton was a total bust for Republicans. Given the gravity of the revelations about Clinton’s conduct and the administration’s knowledge of the nature of the attacks while they were ongoing, much of which was revealed at that marathon hearing, this claim is nothing short of a rearguard action to shield Clinton from criticism. Leave it to the Republican Party’s presidential frontrunner to legitimize this media narrative. “It was very partisan, and it looked quite partisan,” Trump averred on CNN on Sunday amid his endless whirlwind media tour. Maybe, but it was also quite productive. Moreover, most Republicans on the panel (and Democrat Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) 19%, to her credit) behaved in a dispassionate and prosecutorial manner. To give succor to the liberal narrative that this was a partisan exercise lends validity to the Democratic contention that Hillary Clinton emerged a “winner” out of a process that should be immune to such parochial characterizations.

And what of the fevered passions with which Trump-backing conservatives decry the apparition of “amnesty” for illegal immigrants, the specter of which haunts their imaginations and crowds out virtually any objective or rational thought. In an interview with Larry King, Trump was asked if his unfeasibly aggressive deportation proposals have any redeeming character in the form of compassion for those families he proposes to break up. “We will do something that will be done with heart,” Trump vowed. He added, however, that he would not be more specific. “I don’t want to comment on that one right now, Larry, because that’s the sort of a question where I just don’t want to answer it right now,” Trump said. He has already claimed that he would reintroduce the “good” illegal residents he deports in some expedited fashion. Perhaps this is the start of Trump’s embrace of a pathway to grant amnesty to this population that avoids the cost and redundancy of his imagined re-importation process.

Trump’s retreat on immigration should not surprise anyone who is acquainted with Donald Trump’s liberal predispositions. Trump has in the not-too-distant past called Jeb Bush a “bright, tough and principled” Republican, scolded Mitt Romney for the callousness of his contention that illegal immigrants should face conditions in America that compel them to “self-deport,” and told a group of DREAMERs (the non-citizen children of illegal immigrants) that they had “convinced” him to support their pursuit of full, unqualified citizenship.

All the reasons conservatives purport to oppose Hillary can also be said of Trump. Every liberal position she holds, Trump likewise holds or has held within the last ten years. Now that the mask is slipping on Trump, there’s no indication that he would govern as anything other than an exceptionally liberal Republican. Such a man is not worth detonating the entire coalition over, or burning at the stake every other actually conservative Republican, as Trump has done.

And while Trump has acted as a one man wrecking ball within the coalition, setting us all against each other with his petulant, insulting style, observe how the Democrats are behaving: with the exception of some college students who will inevitably fall in line, they are circling the wagons around their inevitable nominee in spite of serious questions about her ideological commitment to their cause, as well as her fundamental honesty and trustworthiness. That is no reason for us to do the same for a candidate on our side, but it is a good reason to wonder whether the Democrats, in our position, would accept as a standard-bearer whether they’d just let some guy walk in off the street to claim their nomination who had no background in their movement and no apparent understanding of, or interest in, their principles, and who frequently parroted our narratives instead of their own. There’s no set of circumstances under which the Democrats would let Arnold Schwarzenegger walk into their party tomorrow and become their Presidential front runner.

Here is the truth as I see it with respect to the upcoming election: I suspect (although I would happily hope to be proven wrong) that if Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% is chosen by the voters as the Republican nominee for President, that he will lose in the general election in grand fashion. And you know what? I’m completely okay with that result, if it comes to that – because in the process, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% will go down fighting for the conservative values that we as a movement have stood for all these years.

He will go down (if it comes to that) carrying the banner of small government and speaking prophetically about the dangers of our current path. And though he might not win, we can at least hope that, as with Goldwater in 1964, his campaign will sow the intellectual seeds of an electoral movement that can change the future path of America.

Trump, on the other hand, has already cast aside any conservative principle of note (or, worse, shows no ability to even understand conservative principles). His nomination will result only in embarrassment for not just the party, but the movement that will be seen to have bolstered him. His inevitable, embarrassing flameout will discredit for generations the tea party and conservative movement as a whole. The best final result of a Trump general election candidacy will be the banishment (possibly self imposed) of conservatives from the bargaining table, with some not inconsiderable portion of them forming a transient and impotent third party that serves to grease the skids for the permanent advancement of European socialism into America as Democrats quickly reassert wholesale control over every level of government.

If Hillary wins, it will be bad, and it will have long lasting consequences, but we will (maybe) be able to recover as a movement and a cohesive political force and undo some of the damage that has been done. If Trump is nominated – or worse, wins – the consequences will be more permanent because the conservative movement will be forever hitched to his dumpster fire campaign.

And yes, Trump will likewise permanently discredit the anti-amnesty movement as a political force in America, if he is nominated. It is politically possible to be opposed to amnesty in such a way that you do not alienate the growing Hispanic voting bloc in America; however, Trump has already demonstrated that he utterly lacks the finesse to pull such a maneuver off. Trump’s bluster to the contrary, Trump is absolutely hated by Hispanic voters, worse than virtually any politician of either party in the country. Even in the unlikely event that he survives a general election, he will be unable to accomplish anything he proposes, either due to lack of political will (he cannot unilaterally build the wall he so lavishly promises) or because of, you know, math. Even if he wins, he will exit office having failed to produce on his promises but having nonetheless poisoned the ever-expanding well of Hispanic voters against the GOP anyway.

Savvy people who truly believe that illegal immigration is the number one threat facing America ought to be running away from Trump as though he were physically on fire; however, like the folks who believe that sending a message to Washington is the number one goal of the upcoming election, they are unable to see how Trump is such a fatally flawed vessel for their aspirations that the higher he rises in their ranks, the lower their entire movement becomes in the public eyes.

There’s a certain visceral joy Trump supporters take at being the only ones who “get” the phenomenon of their candidate. They love the fact that the folks they deride as the so-called #GOPSmartSet are so infuriated by Trump’s persistence atop the polls, and I suspect that this, as much as anything, is what’s keeping him there. And I definitely get so mad at McConnell, et al sometimes that I understand the temptation to cut off my nose and everyone else’s just to spite our collective faces.

But at the end of the day this impulse, if left unchecked, will destroy the last functional opposition to socialism in this country, and that’s why it must be stopped. And that’s why, as long as Trump remains a threat to win the nomination, he will be a threat to this country, and I will continue to oppose him as loudly and strenuously as I can.

I expected, coming into this primary season, to spend months on a strenuous fight to reject the establishment’s attempt to force the milquetoast and uninspiring Jeb Bush candidacy down our collective throats. I’m as unhappy as anyone that instead I get to spend my time fighting a threat to conservatism that is a thousand times worse. But because I actually believe in the principles the Trump supporters claim to be fighting for, I can’t stop fighting against him.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; conservatism; elections; gopprimary; trump; trumprebellion
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To: mkjessup
97% of "scientists" agree that CAGW is the most important issue of our times.

Agnew was a corrupt politician, through and through. He was no Ted Cruz even.

41 posted on 10/27/2015 3:57:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
People are beholden to others for things other than money. Your declaration that because "Trump is beholden to NO ONE" that it signifies his ability to..... do what? Ignore everyone? Cater to everyone? His record is what you need to address and not his bank account.

Stuff it! You seriously need to seek professional help.

42 posted on 10/27/2015 3:58:45 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, look! Another anti-Trump article posted by CW! The first several dozen articles didn’t sway me, but this one has caused the scales to fall from my eyes and realize I was wrong. What was I thinking?

Or not.


43 posted on 10/27/2015 3:59:03 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well here you go again...posting another “hate Trump” article.

The article started with “Let me first of all establish some bona fides, so people know where I am coming from here.”

Well, It comes from Red State so we already know the “bona fides” before we even start to read it...and when we did, we were not surprised at all.

Gal, you must be lonely and love to have lots and lots of mail to keep you company....even if is hate mail.

Next year you will have to face the fact that true Americans will elect Donald Trump (or Ted Cruz) as our President and we will “gasp” turn the tide of our country’s demise around.


44 posted on 10/27/2015 4:00:21 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: mkjessup

That is BEAUTIFUL!! Thanks. Jim should post it everytime some establishment GOP character crawls out of the woodwork.


45 posted on 10/27/2015 4:01:44 AM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here is the truth as I see it with respect to the upcoming election: I suspect (although I would happily hope to be proven wrong) that if Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% is chosen by the voters as the Republican nominee for President, that he will lose in the general election in grand fashion. And you know what? I’m completely okay with that result, if it comes to that...

No more. Not this time.

-PJ

46 posted on 10/27/2015 4:04:35 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All I can say to this gibberish is that it is symptomatic of the continuing failed and confused GOPe reasoning. It all comes down to whether you believe Trump or you do not. Myself, I have had it with the donor class bought out and paid for politicians.


47 posted on 10/27/2015 4:08:52 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All I can say to this gibberish is that it is symptomatic of the continuing failed and confused GOPe reasoning. It all comes down to whether you believe Trump or you do not. Myself, I have had it with the donor class bought out and paid for politicians.


48 posted on 10/27/2015 4:08:54 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All I can say to this gibberish is that it is symptomatic of the continuing failed and confused GOPe reasoning. It all comes down to whether you believe Trump or you do not. Myself, I have had it with the donor class bought out and paid for politicians.


49 posted on 10/27/2015 4:08:56 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: momincombatboots

“Men and women will pay with their flesh and bones for the unconstitutional sound biter in chief.”

I have a news flash for you. The “sound biter in chief” is already our President and men and women have dearly paid with their life, body and soul in a war far far away in some “hell hole” with a lot of rocks and sand for scenery.

We know his name but apparently you think his name is Trump.


50 posted on 10/27/2015 4:09:55 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: mkjessup

I believe that there is a pro-conservative agenda at work on FR - for me, Donald Trump is reprehensible, unfit and blatantly uncredentialed to lead a conservative push to restore our Republic. The troops have been turning states red and Trump is a slap in the face to their hard fought and won, principled work.


51 posted on 10/27/2015 4:10:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: momincombatboots
I have no favorite in this race, so I think I can be objective here.

I've said from the start that I never believed Donald Trump is a serious candidate. He's already wealthy beyond belief, and he's the kind of man who would find living in the White House to be a huge step down. He's also a New Yorker through-and-through, and when you pair that with his business dealings this means a few important things in a presidential campaign:

1. He's often full of sh!t. That's not necessarily an insult, but it's the way you succeed in the entertainment business.

2. He has no idea what real Americans have to deal with in their daily lives.

3. He has no interest in political affairs outside their relationship to his business interests.

4. He has no political interests, period. He can run for any elected office as a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, a Communist, a Libertarian, or whatever his TV viewers want to see.

5. He has lived an urban, pampered existence that has diminished his human skills considerably in the real world.

Maybe this is the precisely the type of candidate this country needs. I will reserve judgement on that one. But I do think it's important that people don't vote for him (or against him) based on a completely delusional idea of who he is and what he stands for.

52 posted on 10/27/2015 4:11:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

After reading all the Pro’s and Con’s of which there were many on both sides of the ledger, I have only one thing to say:

CRUZ 2016... A consistent, constant conservative who has been so since youth and never wavered or experimented with liberalism and has proven he will work harder, fight harder than any other candidate to restore our Constitutional FREE REPUBLIC.


53 posted on 10/27/2015 4:11:56 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: dennisw

You’re absolutely correct. Red State is nothing but trash. I stopped reading it months ago.
Not only does this chump have no one, he is trying to tell us that LOSING is the way to go because Cruz can’t win (the only thing I agree with) and Hillery is not too bad for the country. I can’t decide whether Hillery or Bush is paying him.
Postings of crap like this are NO CREDIT to the poster!


54 posted on 10/27/2015 4:12:41 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: 1rudeboy

I have a philosophical question: I happen to think that Trump is a blowhard, but if he wins the GOP nomination I will vote for him. Does that make me a Trump supporter? Or GOPe?
......................................................
It makes you a realist.


55 posted on 10/27/2015 4:14:32 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: kabar

Agreed!


56 posted on 10/27/2015 4:15:03 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: 1rudeboy
I have a philosophical question: I happen to think that Trump is a blowhard, but if he wins the GOP nomination I will vote for him. Does that make me a Trump supporter? Or GOPe?

That's a very interesting post. It may describe my position perfectly.

I don't think this approach makes us Trump supporters, or GOPe jack@sses.

I think it does, however, disqualify us from ever getting on FreeRepublic and complaining when he is a disappointment in the White House.

57 posted on 10/27/2015 4:17:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: mkjessup

You forgot two reasons, which are the biggest ones for me to support Trump:

1) He has his own money and can’t be bought.
2) As a result of 1, he has exposed the massive collusion among all of the enemedia, pols, and groups that cheer for the overthrow of the US.

I went to Detroit when it was in its heyday. I remember the greatness of American steel and rubber. I lived the oil crises.

We cannot give more American jobs away, and the passage of the TPP-perhaps with Communist China joined to it-will do just that. We will be wiped away, just. like. that.


58 posted on 10/27/2015 4:19:25 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

THREE THINGS HE WILL DEFINITELY DO! He will build the wall. He will protect the Second Amendment. He will get some equal footing in Trade Deals so we stop selling out America for the chosen few.
Those three things will start turning the ship of state away from sinking in the Mariana Trench and bring America back to a safe port. That is enough to expect and that is what he WILL do. It’s up to us to accept that those three things are enough to start with.


59 posted on 10/27/2015 4:24:48 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DH; Cincinatus' Wife

“Well here you go again...posting another “hate Trump” article.”

Mrs. Cincinatus obviously is eager to see the demise of America so continues with obsessive anti-Trump drivel.

Trump isn’t the 100% perfect candidate for most of us, but he is the best of the lot of GOP candidates. I would think that Mrs. C. recognize that Trump is the ONLY one of the lot who could be even moderately successful at taking down the wicked witch PIAPS in the general.

Having a short-term goal (no Trump) is fine for CW, but we need to focus on the Big Picture, i.e., the results of the general election and the future of America. Walker, Cruz, etc., could not survive the evil Hillary will impose on them. Trump is a fighter and he takes no crap from anyone. I pray for him, his security detail, and his Kevlar every day.


60 posted on 10/27/2015 4:25:06 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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