Posted on 10/27/2015 2:01:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
I got an email from a conservative Hill staffer who is generally supportive of Trump yesterday in response to the Monday edition of the RedState Morning Briefing. The email said, verbatim, Do you guys write anything but anti-Trump articles anymore? I want to try to answer what I think this question was asking as honestly and without rancor as I can, and explain why I, in particular, keep coming back to the subject of Trump and the danger he poses.
First, I think it is facially obvious just by clicking on the RedState front page that we write about a whole lot that has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump. Over the weekend, Trump went on a much-covered media blitz during which he did and said several newsworthy (not in a positive way) things. So we were not alone in spending significant time covering Trumps remarks about Carson, Hillary, Ford Motor Company, and the rest of the GOP field in fairly great detail over the weekend. Even so, we had numerous posts over the weekend about Hillary, the VA Scandal, Seattles minimum wage hike, College Football, Ben Carson, and even St. Crispins Day.
That having been said, the person who asked this question was really asking why we have had so many negative articles about Trump recently, and thats a fair question, even granted the outsized portion of media attention that Trump commands. Here I will speak only for myself: I write about Trump so much because I consider him to be an existential threat to the conservative movement a greater existential threat than any candidate currently running for President, including Hillary. Let me explain.
Let me first of all establish some bona fides, so people know where I am coming from here. I am not one of those people who says they are conservative yet always ends up supporting the establishment candidate when the chips are down. Ive been writing at RedState here for over 10 years now and all of what Im about to say is a matter of public record even if some of it is in archives that Im no longer able to search effectively. In literally every contest thats occurred since 2008 Ive stood publicly against liberal establishment candidates in primaries whenever there was an even marginally more conservative option available. Going back in history:
I supported Chris McDaniel against Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) 37% in Mississippi.
I supported Matt Bevin against Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 57% in Kentucky.
I supported Milton Wolf over Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) 58% in Kansas.
I supported Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% over Dewhurst and have repeatedly supported every one of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100%s crusades against Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) 57% in the Senate.
I supported Richard Mourdock over Dick Lugar in Indiana.
I supported Rubio over Crist in Florida.
I supported Toomey over Specter and called Newt Gingrich an establishment sellout for siding with Specter.
I could go on, but I dont want to belabor the point the point being, I am not one of the people who has looked down their noses at tea party members or conservatives who have become fed up with the status quo in Washington and who have mounted campaigns in support of extremist conservative challengers. Rather, I have long been one of those people who has had the Establishment looking down their nose at me. Look at that list again thats a public record of supporting the more conservative challenger pretty much every time I had the opportunity including some challengers who suffered some embarrassingly huge losses in both the primary and the general.
Look, the people who look at the fact that I oppose Trump and therefore automatically assume that Im a RINO or establishment hack are so embarrassingly far off the mark that its hard to know where to begin responding. I dont oppose Trump because Im opposed to insurgent conservative candidates; I oppose Trump because I support insurgent conservative candidates.
I have made a public career of supporting conservative challengers to liberal Republicans. Donald Trump is not one of these. Not only is he not one of these, but he is a freeloading cancer on the movement as a whole. He has misappropriated the credit for the accomplishments of others, he has pretended to be the standard bearer for a movement he does not even belong to, and if he wins the nomination, the evidence suggests that he will suddenly lose his fighting spirit when confronted with his good friend Hillary as opposed to actual conservative Republicans.
The reason we spent so much digital ink on Trump this weekend is this: while you might not have been watching, Donald Trump concluded that hes already won the Republican nomination, and is letting his general election flag fly. And that flag has a giant donkey on it, as Noah Rothman at Commentary correctly notes:
As Trump has encountered a potent rival in the form of Dr. Ben Carson, he has taken to differentiating himself from the candidate by, among other things like attacking his energy level and questioning his faith, contending that Carson would reform entitlements. Ben Carson wants to abolish Medicare I want to save it and Social Security, Trump wrote on his Twitter account on Sunday evening. This was a flip-flop in record time. Not hours ago, Trump appeared on ABC News where he was asked if he would support health savings accounts in order to render Medicare unnecessary. Well, its possible, he told host George Stephanopoulos. I think its a very good idea, and its an idea whose probably time has come. Apparently that time came and went in the interim between breakfast and dinner on Sunday.
A creature of the media, it is rarely wise to underestimate Trumps willingness to parrot the dominant narrative in the press. The latest and least well-founded contention among media professionals is that the Benghazi select committees questioning of Hillary Clinton was a total bust for Republicans. Given the gravity of the revelations about Clintons conduct and the administrations knowledge of the nature of the attacks while they were ongoing, much of which was revealed at that marathon hearing, this claim is nothing short of a rearguard action to shield Clinton from criticism. Leave it to the Republican Partys presidential frontrunner to legitimize this media narrative. It was very partisan, and it looked quite partisan, Trump averred on CNN on Sunday amid his endless whirlwind media tour. Maybe, but it was also quite productive. Moreover, most Republicans on the panel (and Democrat Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) 19%, to her credit) behaved in a dispassionate and prosecutorial manner. To give succor to the liberal narrative that this was a partisan exercise lends validity to the Democratic contention that Hillary Clinton emerged a winner out of a process that should be immune to such parochial characterizations.
And what of the fevered passions with which Trump-backing conservatives decry the apparition of amnesty for illegal immigrants, the specter of which haunts their imaginations and crowds out virtually any objective or rational thought. In an interview with Larry King, Trump was asked if his unfeasibly aggressive deportation proposals have any redeeming character in the form of compassion for those families he proposes to break up. We will do something that will be done with heart, Trump vowed. He added, however, that he would not be more specific. I dont want to comment on that one right now, Larry, because thats the sort of a question where I just dont want to answer it right now, Trump said. He has already claimed that he would reintroduce the good illegal residents he deports in some expedited fashion. Perhaps this is the start of Trumps embrace of a pathway to grant amnesty to this population that avoids the cost and redundancy of his imagined re-importation process.
Trumps retreat on immigration should not surprise anyone who is acquainted with Donald Trumps liberal predispositions. Trump has in the not-too-distant past called Jeb Bush a bright, tough and principled Republican, scolded Mitt Romney for the callousness of his contention that illegal immigrants should face conditions in America that compel them to self-deport, and told a group of DREAMERs (the non-citizen children of illegal immigrants) that they had convinced him to support their pursuit of full, unqualified citizenship.
All the reasons conservatives purport to oppose Hillary can also be said of Trump. Every liberal position she holds, Trump likewise holds or has held within the last ten years. Now that the mask is slipping on Trump, theres no indication that he would govern as anything other than an exceptionally liberal Republican. Such a man is not worth detonating the entire coalition over, or burning at the stake every other actually conservative Republican, as Trump has done.
And while Trump has acted as a one man wrecking ball within the coalition, setting us all against each other with his petulant, insulting style, observe how the Democrats are behaving: with the exception of some college students who will inevitably fall in line, they are circling the wagons around their inevitable nominee in spite of serious questions about her ideological commitment to their cause, as well as her fundamental honesty and trustworthiness. That is no reason for us to do the same for a candidate on our side, but it is a good reason to wonder whether the Democrats, in our position, would accept as a standard-bearer whether theyd just let some guy walk in off the street to claim their nomination who had no background in their movement and no apparent understanding of, or interest in, their principles, and who frequently parroted our narratives instead of their own. Theres no set of circumstances under which the Democrats would let Arnold Schwarzenegger walk into their party tomorrow and become their Presidential front runner.
Here is the truth as I see it with respect to the upcoming election: I suspect (although I would happily hope to be proven wrong) that if Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% is chosen by the voters as the Republican nominee for President, that he will lose in the general election in grand fashion. And you know what? Im completely okay with that result, if it comes to that because in the process, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% will go down fighting for the conservative values that we as a movement have stood for all these years.
He will go down (if it comes to that) carrying the banner of small government and speaking prophetically about the dangers of our current path. And though he might not win, we can at least hope that, as with Goldwater in 1964, his campaign will sow the intellectual seeds of an electoral movement that can change the future path of America.
Trump, on the other hand, has already cast aside any conservative principle of note (or, worse, shows no ability to even understand conservative principles). His nomination will result only in embarrassment for not just the party, but the movement that will be seen to have bolstered him. His inevitable, embarrassing flameout will discredit for generations the tea party and conservative movement as a whole. The best final result of a Trump general election candidacy will be the banishment (possibly self imposed) of conservatives from the bargaining table, with some not inconsiderable portion of them forming a transient and impotent third party that serves to grease the skids for the permanent advancement of European socialism into America as Democrats quickly reassert wholesale control over every level of government.
If Hillary wins, it will be bad, and it will have long lasting consequences, but we will (maybe) be able to recover as a movement and a cohesive political force and undo some of the damage that has been done. If Trump is nominated or worse, wins the consequences will be more permanent because the conservative movement will be forever hitched to his dumpster fire campaign.
And yes, Trump will likewise permanently discredit the anti-amnesty movement as a political force in America, if he is nominated. It is politically possible to be opposed to amnesty in such a way that you do not alienate the growing Hispanic voting bloc in America; however, Trump has already demonstrated that he utterly lacks the finesse to pull such a maneuver off. Trumps bluster to the contrary, Trump is absolutely hated by Hispanic voters, worse than virtually any politician of either party in the country. Even in the unlikely event that he survives a general election, he will be unable to accomplish anything he proposes, either due to lack of political will (he cannot unilaterally build the wall he so lavishly promises) or because of, you know, math. Even if he wins, he will exit office having failed to produce on his promises but having nonetheless poisoned the ever-expanding well of Hispanic voters against the GOP anyway.
Savvy people who truly believe that illegal immigration is the number one threat facing America ought to be running away from Trump as though he were physically on fire; however, like the folks who believe that sending a message to Washington is the number one goal of the upcoming election, they are unable to see how Trump is such a fatally flawed vessel for their aspirations that the higher he rises in their ranks, the lower their entire movement becomes in the public eyes.
Theres a certain visceral joy Trump supporters take at being the only ones who get the phenomenon of their candidate. They love the fact that the folks they deride as the so-called #GOPSmartSet are so infuriated by Trumps persistence atop the polls, and I suspect that this, as much as anything, is whats keeping him there. And I definitely get so mad at McConnell, et al sometimes that I understand the temptation to cut off my nose and everyone elses just to spite our collective faces.
But at the end of the day this impulse, if left unchecked, will destroy the last functional opposition to socialism in this country, and thats why it must be stopped. And thats why, as long as Trump remains a threat to win the nomination, he will be a threat to this country, and I will continue to oppose him as loudly and strenuously as I can.
I expected, coming into this primary season, to spend months on a strenuous fight to reject the establishments attempt to force the milquetoast and uninspiring Jeb Bush candidacy down our collective throats. Im as unhappy as anyone that instead I get to spend my time fighting a threat to conservatism that is a thousand times worse. But because I actually believe in the principles the Trump supporters claim to be fighting for, I cant stop fighting against him.
Please discuss pros and cons of a Trump candidacy/nomination, as you see them, with the same objective - open and honest debate.
I used to excerpt Red State (mistakenly believed it was required for RS) but was told by a FR Trump supporter that I was purposefully teasing the article, so to avoid that misconception, I've posted the full piece.
So who has this genius Leon Wolf come up with who is anti-Amnesty and who can beat Hillary? My answer is Donald Trump. Who does this chump have???
Answer: He has no one!!!!!!!! And he wasted 1000 words telling us this.
BTW Red State sucks and this clown is now its managing editor. “Leon H. Wolf seems to function as Commissar at RedState.”
I have a philosophical question: I happen to think that Trump is a blowhard, but if he wins the GOP nomination I will vote for him. Does that make me a Trump supporter? Or GOPe?
Trump is the only Rep candidate who can win the general election.
Can you address the substance of his article instead of using an ad hominem attack? Some of the stuff in that piece is a little alarming if accurate.
Is the reporting inaccurate? If so, where?
quote “Even in the unlikely event that he survives a general election, he will be unable to accomplish anything he proposes, either due to lack of political will (he cannot unilaterally build the wall he so lavishly promises) or because of, you know, math. Even if he wins, he will exit office having failed to produce on his promises”
Wrong.
He will accompish EVERYTHING he proposes, using the unlimited power of the presidency that Obama has wielded.
No new laws need be passed to deport the illegals, those law are already on the books along with the constitutional power to enforce them.
And just like Obama, Trump can simply demand whatever he wants or threaten to shut the government down at which point congress will fold quicker than you can say jack robinson!
“...Not only is he not one of these, but he is a freeloading cancer on the movement as a whole. He has misappropriated the credit for the accomplishments of others, he has pretended to be the standard bearer for a movement he does not even belong to...”.
Isn't it just a slight possibility that the “movement as a whole” is in such disarray, such confusion and offering the American electorate such a pasty, dull and unmoving set of candidates (granted, with experience)that they all turn off the public?
For example, we've been watching the GOP field, FAR TOO MANY candidates for FAR TOO LONG that it's all a blur?
The GOP house is a divided, fractured and pathetic organization that NATURALLY, Trump stands out like a sore thumb!
For whatever we criticize about the man, he symbolizes America's desire to actually get things moving.
He exudes “can do” and “get the job done” platforms that make the other candidates look like slugs...so yes, he's an outsider but he invigorates the public.
The other candidates are just subsisting...
Suddenly Ryan and McConnell will discover their spines. Conservatives have to take over the party, but above all, we need an Article V Convention and term limits. It's the only way to fix Congress structurally.
There’s no reporting in the article. There is no substance to it. There’s nothing in it worth discussing.
Get a grip.
The other tenet of his belief is the automatic assumption that we will have to pander to the "growing Hispanic voter bloc" in this country if we (I guess he means Republicans) are to win anything. He tops this off with the oft-heard "can't be done anyway" theme.
He envies the ability of the Democrats to circle the wagons around whomever the candidate might be and decries our own side's in-fighting, at the neglect of the core argument for that.
The GOP establishment has sown the crop of what they are reaping in Trump's inexplicable rise. It isn't up to his supporters to explain themselves. It seems they will be "explaining" all this with their votes next year. It is up to the establishment (and it's cheerleaders like RS) to clearly get that, or get whopped upside the head with the answer.
How can you possibly know? Donald Trump "proposes" many things, all dependent on and when he's saying it, where he's saying it and to whom he's saying it.
He probably did it because one of the first things a meatball (as opposed to a normal) Trump supporter does is question someone's bona fides. In other words, he's trying to short-circuit all the howling that he's "GOPe."
That’s your assumption about meatball. The point is that he did it and felt the need to do it.
Oct 5, 2015: Erick Erickson - All Good Things . . .
"The cat is now completely out of the bag, so I might as well fess up.
I am leaving at the end of this year. June 3rd was my 40th birthday and also my 10th year on the payroll as Editor-in-Chief of RedState. I emailed the corporate overlords that day and told them it was time to start planning a transition. Frankly, I wanted to be done the week after the RedState Gathering, but they asked me to stay till the end of the year and I agreed.
When I first became Editor-in-Chief, I was also CEO of RedState, Inc. But on the same day my wife was given six months to live, fate intervened with RedState and Mike, Ben, Clayton, and I also decided we needed to sell RedState. We did sell it to Eagle Publishing, Inc. My wife is still alive and Ive been here ever since.
But all good things must come to an end and I arrived this year in June at a time ready to make another leap of faith...................."
The only thing that's going to save the US is a real force of nature, a flawed hero! Trump is that person. He can start by building the wall, sending home those in the US illegally, and demanding US jobs for US citizens.
Those are the issues that have to be solved ASAP or there is no nation to save.
I hated McCain..but voted for him in the general
I hated Romney...but voted for him in the general
I hate Jeb, I dislike Rubio, I really like Cruz! But I can live with Trump more than I can live with McCain, Romney, Jeb or Rubio. I like his no nonsense discourse. He holds no punches. And if he appoints Cruz as VP, I’ll be ecstatic.
You are tenacious CW
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