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Kim Davis' Lawyers: No Need to Change Marriage Licenses After Controversy
NBC News ^ | October 13, 2015 | PETE WILLIAMS and ERIK ORTIZ

Posted on 10/14/2015 10:58:00 PM PDT by napscoordinator

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To: 1010RD

we have to because Charles Krauthammer and the Fox Special report panel says we have to


21 posted on 10/15/2015 8:17:11 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (TRUMP/CRUZ 2016 OR BUST)
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To: MortMan

I bet he wishes FR had an edit button after your clarification ;-)


22 posted on 10/15/2015 8:33:57 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Sideshow Bob; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ..
The gay lobby is insisting that her name MUST appear on the license. They don't want a valid license, they want forced acceptance of their agenda as a requirement of law. That is the point of Davis' lawyers and the fact that is being obscured by the accomplice liberal media.

That is what agrees with what i heard. Davis is a hero of conscience, and is not to be thrown under the bus for this tactical move. What i criticize them for doing is meeting the pope and accepting rosary beads from him (they said they would give them away).

23 posted on 10/15/2015 11:26:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mechanicos
Good examples. 😂😀😃
24 posted on 10/15/2015 11:57:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Heaven, where the only thing there that's been made by man are the scars in the hands of Jesus)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Actually, they are not valid. Everyone is just pretending that they are.


25 posted on 10/15/2015 1:08:05 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: daniel1212

State law does require her name on the license.

The no-brainier solution is to have another county that is not objecting to the extinctionist said marriage to issue the license.

But the extinctionist said do not want that. They want to hammer her and send a message to the rest of us.


26 posted on 10/15/2015 1:11:08 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Mechanicos

and let us not forget Saul who was an Executioner (who later became Paul) =)


27 posted on 10/15/2015 1:22:21 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: praytell

AMEN!!


28 posted on 10/15/2015 1:22:44 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: napscoordinator

Her personal history tainted as it is becomes another matter but she hasn’t caved
just because she is cleaning up the marriage form to where her name, etc. doesn’t appear
thereon. If the courts and others want to declare that form legal in the state of KY then
so be it. Davis didn’t declare that in her position.


29 posted on 10/15/2015 1:45:19 PM PDT by deport
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To: napscoordinator

If the Gov of Kentucky had any balls at all, He would have pushed the State Legislature to pass a law mandating that ALL Marriages SHALL be performed by any Federal Judge residing or working within the boundaries of the State of Kentucky.

Then start JAILING the Federal Judges for Contempt when they cannot perform their LEGALLY REQUIRED DUTIES under Kentucky State Law.


30 posted on 10/15/2015 4:32:35 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Pikachu_Dad
But the extinctionist said do not want that. They want to hammer her and send a message to the rest of us.

If you do not salute the flag of Sodom when faced with it or asked, you will face economic sanctions, and more severe penalties in time.

Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands? (Daniel 3:15)

...that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. (Acts 14:22)

31 posted on 10/15/2015 5:06:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: napscoordinator

She became a Christian after her last marriage. Don’t bear false witness.


32 posted on 10/16/2015 4:11:23 PM PDT by bramps (Islam is a preview of Hell)
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To: Mechanicos

Liked your post...another example...

...the leaders of the early church the Apostles were as the last of all, like men sentenced to death, they become a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men...fools for Christ’s sake, weak...held in disrepute....they went hungry and thirsty, they were poorly dressed and buffeted and homeless, they labored working with their own hands....they became like the scum of the world, the refuse of all things. 1 Cor 4


33 posted on 10/16/2015 4:23:29 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: bramps
How convenient.
34 posted on 10/16/2015 9:56:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Mechanicos

You forgot Paul’s conversion from Christian-killer.


35 posted on 10/16/2015 10:06:07 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mechanicos

Splendid line-up, makes me smile and say “Praise God!” I’ll probably be quoting it sometime, but I will be sure to attribute it to you, my FReeper friend!


36 posted on 10/17/2015 10:39:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: napscoordinator
I think she is a noble lady. What she did before her conversion is past --- way past, as in down-at-the-bottom-fo-the-deep-blue sea.

We live in a country where practically nobody is resisting this sodomy-abomination; and if one Kentucky lady is willing to resist and spend 5 days in jail, my hat's off to her.

She makes us other 318 million Americans look like wimps. Because I'm afraid we are, God help us.

I would say to her exactly what Pope Francis said (but I hope without all the maddening clerico-bafflegab equivocations): "Thank you for your courage! Stay strong! and pray for me."

37 posted on 10/17/2015 10:50:48 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Still Catholic after all these years.)
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To: Mechanicos
God has a habit of calling and using the unlikely: Noah was a drunk, Abraham was too old, Jacob was a liar, Leah was ugly, Joseph was abused, Moses had a stuttering problem, Gideon was afraid, Samson was a womanizer, Rahab was a prostitute, David was an adulterer and a murderer, Elijah was suicidal, Jonah ran from God, Naomi was a widow, Job went bankrupt, Peter denied, the Disciples fled, Martha worried, the Samaritan woman was divorced, Zacchesus was too small and Lazarus was dead!


38 posted on 10/17/2015 10:55:42 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: napscoordinator

Overview of the process

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.080 Marriage license required — Who may issue. No marriage shall be solemnized without a license therefor. The license shall be issued by the clerk of the county in which the female resides at the time, unless the female is eighteen (18) years of age or over or a widow, and the license is issued on her application in person or by writing signed by her, in which case it may be issued by any county clerk.

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.105 Marriage license valid for thirty days. A marriage license shall be valid for thirty (30) days, including the date it is issued, and after that time it shall be invalid.

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.020(1)(c)Marriage is prohibited and void when not solemnized or contracted in the presence of an authorized person or society;

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.050(1)(b) Marriage shall be solemnized only by ... Justices and judges of the Court of Justice, retired justices and judges of the Court of Justice except those removed for cause or convicted of a felony, county judges/executive, and such justices of the peace and fiscal court commissioners as the Governor or the county judge/executive authorizes

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.220 Return of license and certificate to clerk after ceremony. The person solemnizing the marriage or the clerk of the religious society before which it was solemnized shall within one (1) month return the license to the county clerk of the county in which it was issued, with a certificate of the marriage over his signature, giving the date and place of celebration and the names of at least two (2) of the persons present.

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.230 Filing of marriage certificate — Record of marriages. The certificate shall be filed in the county clerk’s office. The county clerk shall keep in a record book a fair register of the parties’ names, the person by whom, or the religious society by which, the marriage was solemnized, the date when the marriage was solemnized, and shall keep an index to the book in which the register is made.

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.240 County judge/executive to issue license in absence of clerk. - In the absence of the county clerk, or during a vacancy in the office, the county judge/executive may issue the license and, in so doing, he shall perform the duties and incur all the responsibilities of the clerk. The county judge/executive shall return a memorandum thereof to the clerk, and the memorandum shall be recorded as if the license had been issued by the clerk.

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.100(1)(c) A marriage license which provides for the entering of... The date and place the license is issued, and the signature of the county clerk or deputy clerk issuing the license.

Full details: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/Statutes/chapter.aspx?id=39205

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(Sep 18, 2015) However, any unauthorized license that they issue will not have my name, my title or my authority on it. Instead, the license will state that they are issued pursuant to a federal court order.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-interfered-with-judges-order-attorney-says/

“Issued pursuant to a federal court order” is not the name of the county clerk.

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39 posted on 10/18/2015 7:40:14 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: napscoordinator
An image of a valid Kentucky Marriage License


Source: https://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/2015/080515_Complaint_-_Davis_Third_Party_Complaint_against_Gov_Beshear_FINAL.pdf

KRS 402.100(1)(c) A marriage license which provides for the entering of... The date and place the license is issued, and the signature of the county clerk or deputy clerk issuing the license.

The date issued is “6/16/2015”; the place issued is “the office of KIM DAVIS, ROWAN COUNTY, County Clerk, MOREHEAD, Kentucky”; the signature of the county clerk or deputy clerk issuing the license is “BRIAN MASON, DEPUTY CLERK”

KRS 402.110 Marriage license to be uniform and completely filled out. - The form of marriage license prescribed in KRS 402.100 shall be uniform throughout this state, and every license blank shall contain the identical words and figures provided in the form prescribed by that section.

“Issued pursuant to a federal court order” is not the name of the county clerk, such licenses are a violation of law.

40 posted on 10/18/2015 7:48:46 PM PDT by Ray76
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