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Ben Carson Blames Holocaust On Gun Control
You Tube ^ | October 9, 2015 | Ben Carson

Posted on 10/11/2015 2:48:11 PM PDT by lbryce

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To: Vermont Lt

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And we used to Joke about DU!
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41 posted on 10/11/2015 3:36:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BlueNgold
They don't even pretend to be objective journalists anymore.

An equivalent headline would be, "FOUR DEAD AT BENGHAZI; HILLARY: "SO WHAT?"

42 posted on 10/11/2015 3:37:15 PM PDT by daler
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To: EDINVA

They wised up, eventually.


43 posted on 10/11/2015 3:38:24 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: editor-surveyor

I was replying to someone else’s snark, not actually asking a question.


44 posted on 10/11/2015 3:40:16 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: lbryce

What Ben Carson said was no more provocative
than what the Father of the Constitution, James
Madison, stated in the Federalist #46 about
armed Americans as opposed to unarmed Europeans.


45 posted on 10/11/2015 3:41:21 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-)l)
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To: LegendHasIt

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My Bad!
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46 posted on 10/11/2015 3:43:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Larry Lucido; odawg; Impy; Chgogal; Jane Long; Sarah Barracuda; Liz; Nachum; SJackson; dennisw; ...
The Last Letter From Warsaw Ghetto Revolt Commander Mordecai Anielewicz,

Warsaw April 23, 1943

It is impossible to put into words what we have been through. One thing is clear, what happened exceeded our boldest dreams. The Germans ran twice from the ghetto. One of our companies held out for 40 minutes and another for more than 6 hours. The mine set in the "brushmakers" area exploded. Several of our companies attacked the dispersing Germans. Our losses in manpower are minimal. That is also an achievement. Y. [Yechiel] fell. He fell a hero, at the machine-gun.

I feel that great things are happening and what we dared do is of great, enormous importance....

Beginning from today we shall shift over to the partisan tactic. Three battle companies will move out tonight, with two tasks: reconnaissance and obtaining arms. Do you remember, short-range weapons are of no use to us. We use such weapons only rarely. What we need urgently: grenades, rifles, machine-guns and explosives.

It is impossible to describe the conditions under which the Jews of the ghetto are now living. Only a few will be able to hold out. The remainder will die sooner or later. Their fate is decided. In almost all the hiding places in which thousands are concealing themselves it is not possible to light a candle for lack of air.

With the aid of our transmitter we heard the marvelous report on our fighting by the "Shavit" radio station. The fact that we are remembered beyond the ghetto walls encourages us in our struggle.

Peace go with you, my friend! Perhaps we may still meet again!

The dream of my life has risen to become fact. Self-defense in the ghetto will have been a reality. Jewish armed resistance and revenge are facts. I have been a witness to the magnificent, heroic fighting of Jewish men in battle.

M. Anielewicz
Ghetto, April 23, 1943

http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/Microsoft%20Word%20-%20582.pdf


Mordecai Anielewicz (1919-1943), leader of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising and commander of the Zydowska Organizacja Bojowa, the Jewish Combat Organization.

In April 1943, a second wave of deportations from the Warsaw Ghetto began. Anielewicz, a Jew who had escaped years before, covertly re-entered the Ghetto to find that only 30,000 of the cities original 350,000 Jews remained.

Fueled with vengeance, he became the groups leader and quickly came into contact with the Home Liberation Front, the Polish government in exile located in Britain.

The JCO enacted the first large scale Warsaw Uprising on April 19, 1943 with guerrilla warfare tactics, effectively stalling the Germans for a month.

The uprising was finally quelled on May 16, 1943 with most of the JCO members dead. Mordechai Anielewicz is presumed to have taken his own life when surrounded by Nazi troops.

47 posted on 10/11/2015 3:52:51 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: jjotto

FYI - Jewish Germans and Jewish Britains fought with Germans and and British during WWI


48 posted on 10/11/2015 3:55:20 PM PDT by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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To: celmak

Jews took part in almost everyone’s military, but that’s a non sequitur to the subject of armed civilians.


49 posted on 10/11/2015 3:58:33 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: lbryce

This is called reductio ad absurdum - an effective debate technique in tenth grade.....


50 posted on 10/11/2015 4:00:20 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ClearCase_guy

I remember reading of a German officer who could not comprehend Jews fighting for their lives!
His words were...”Why won’t they come out? Why won’t they come out and let us exterminate them?”

I am also reminded of a scene in VIVA ZAPATA in which Madero is brought to power, and the people are ordered to turn in their guns.
During the gun turn in, General Huerta attacks them with the Mexican Army.


51 posted on 10/11/2015 4:00:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DBrow

Thomas J Dodd used this as his pattern for the 1968 Gun Control Act. so basically, we are now to a certain extent under the Nazi Weapons Act.

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm


52 posted on 10/11/2015 4:08:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: lbryce

The headline is a gross distortion of what he said.


53 posted on 10/11/2015 4:14:21 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jjotto

Whither “Fantasy” or not it is really not the subject of this thread, The subject is the Attack on Ben and his Stance that Guns would have given the Jews a better chance at survival. Which is 100% correct period.

Now Guns were legal prior to the confiscation of Hitler (1938):

Here is just a quick setup of what occurred which is more detail(bigger picture) than the prior post with the specific laws cited, by the way are you trying to say the Jews did not have guns before this? Really?:

“Finding out which Jews had firearms was not too difficult. The liberal Weimar Republic passed a Firearm Law in 1928 requiring extensive police records on gun owners. Hitler signed a further gun control law in early 1938. “

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/nazi_repression.htm


54 posted on 10/11/2015 4:23:58 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution, A Moral People, and Return to On Nation UNDER God!)
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To: lbryce
About 100,000 German Jews served, and 12,000 died for their Fatherland in World War I.

Also, I don't think that's what Ben Carson said.

55 posted on 10/11/2015 4:25:13 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: MarvinStinson; Old Sarge; null and void; Velveeta; Myrddin; Califreak; Salvation; ...

Article and # 47 .

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56 posted on 10/11/2015 4:28:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: lbryce

“.......Jewish people in Nazi Germany might have been able to prevent the Holocaust if they had been armed.”

Like us, depending on where we live??

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/04/dr_benjamin_carson_on_gun_control_it_depends_on_where_you_live.html


57 posted on 10/11/2015 4:51:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: lbryce; All

HOORAY Ben Carson! Ben Carson for President.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitzyn


58 posted on 10/11/2015 5:02:09 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: traderrob6

You mean the media lied?


59 posted on 10/11/2015 5:04:27 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (The media's blackout of Ted Cruz is his greatest endorsement ! Cruz or Lose!)
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To: LucyT; MarvinStinson

Thanks for the ping to the thread, LucyT; and your post, MarvinStinson.

HOORAY Mordecai Anielewicz


60 posted on 10/11/2015 5:06:43 PM PDT by PGalt
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