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Russian jet SHOT DOWN by Turkey after it flew into their airspace, according to reports
express ^ | Sat, Oct 10, 2015 | SCOTT CAMPBELL

Posted on 10/09/2015 8:27:32 PM PDT by revivaljoe

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To: dfwgator

Constantinople and the Bosphorus has been the dream of every Tsar since Peter the Great


161 posted on 10/10/2015 3:12:48 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: All

I am wonder if the following is confused...with this post?????

Ankara bombing: At least 30 killed, scores injured in blasts outside train station in Turkey’s capital

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-10/at-least-30-killed-scores-wounded-in-blasts-in-turkeys-capital/6844222


162 posted on 10/10/2015 3:30:15 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: gandalftb
Do you suppose that there was a mis-identification and the MiG-29 is really a MiG-31, six of which were ID on the tarmac in Syria?


MiG-31


MiG-29

163 posted on 10/10/2015 3:35:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rlmorel

A B61 variant (dash 11) is still around, it seems - it was the various warheads which have been retired (W81, W84, W85) - the current version uses the W80 warhead{http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Weapons/B61.html}.


164 posted on 10/10/2015 3:44:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: gandalftb

Good point. I’d imagine the Turks would use any excuse they could get to shoot down a Syrian plane, IF they had the excuse...

It’s also possible the rebels managed to shoot down a Syrian plane that got too low. All those MANPADS from Libya went somewhere.

Does anyone know if the reports that the Russian planes are only bombing from high altitude are true? That would tend to indicate that the Russkies do believe the rebels have MANPADS.


165 posted on 10/10/2015 4:00:52 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: dp0622

?even though Russia is fighting ISIS which happens to be the enemy, our enemy, that Oboe refuses to fight to win? This whole mess just turned into a fuster cluck. Obama’s negligence and incompetence sits at the root of it all.


166 posted on 10/10/2015 5:02:25 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog ("Tell me what your strategy is and I'll tell you if its working". P. Quinn)
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To: revivaljoe

” . . . while three fighter jets were hovering above. “

I didn’t know the Russians had a version of a Harrier!

But by reading the account, three Russian jets were loitering above the area and then something blows up on the ground. Imagine that, jets carrying bombs in a war zone and something nearby blows up. What will they think of next?

Not enough information to draw any clear indication what really happened.


167 posted on 10/10/2015 5:05:03 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

First to fight for Nato will be the French air in the region


168 posted on 10/10/2015 5:07:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Uh, yea but the U.S has to actually follow through, as do the other countries.

Turkey shoots down Russian Migs? My imagination can come up with scenarios where Turkey deliberately pulls us into a conflict with Russia as part of a dark subterfuge in the Islamic world to bring about world conflict.


169 posted on 10/10/2015 5:12:23 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: gandalftb

I’m not calling you out on these numbers. I’m curious where you pull them from. I’m looking to see if there is an index of sort on raw industrial products like rolled steel, rubber, heavy textile, foundries for other metals like Aluminum, titanium — as part of an effort to measure war capability in a protracted conflict.


170 posted on 10/10/2015 5:17:38 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: TigerClaws; SgtBob; Chode

The zer0 will offer to pay for it and toss in a few hoes for ‘puti.


171 posted on 10/10/2015 5:20:30 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree in part, but wasn’t Turkey very important to the U.S during the Reagan administration?

Also, Cyprus, another remnant of European adventurism. Look at it on the map. It’s so far removed from Greece and Western Europe and within a zone of Islamic influence. It must have some huge strategic value to the West.


172 posted on 10/10/2015 5:25:14 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: marron
"I don’t want to fight the Russians to defend ISIS."

Or the muslim brotherhood.....for the obummer's sake...or any other Christian murdering raghead....

MHO....

173 posted on 10/10/2015 5:26:25 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: dp0622

No carriers in the Med either.


174 posted on 10/10/2015 5:45:27 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Obama is not bound by treaty, law, or honor.


175 posted on 10/10/2015 6:47:37 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: revivaljoe

Russians are known for being unprofessional but talented pilots.

They lack discipline, if this didn’t happen, it is only a matter of time.


176 posted on 10/10/2015 7:30:38 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Mariner; Rob the Ugly Dude

US used to store about 60 B-61s at Incirlik as part of the NATO nuclear weapons sharing agreement. They were US use owned, maintained and for use. After the Turks screwed us in 2003 we moved them to Aviano, IT, Belgium, and UK, and Germany.


177 posted on 10/10/2015 7:51:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: marron
I don’t want to fight the Russians to defend ISIS.....Amen
178 posted on 10/10/2015 8:00:59 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: PghBaldy

Yep....totally forgot about Pakistan. My bad.

Still doesn’t make me feel any better.


179 posted on 10/10/2015 8:56:59 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Only one solution left.....)
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To: dp0622

Your inclination is that of everyone, so long as we suffer the skirt in the White House and are under the high heel of Brack Obamao. Trump can’t get in soon enough to suit me, turned loose to restore our ferocious military, materials and military technology, and to give us time to think and build up. God be with us.


180 posted on 10/10/2015 9:02:48 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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