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Carson suggests that gun rights might have changed history for Jews in WWII
Washington Post ^ | 10/8/15 | Vanessa Williams

Posted on 10/08/2015 5:11:14 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Lucy Hamilton

Lucy, resisting evil will never be successful while Satan is still in the world. However, the Bible says you get points toward your reward in the next World if you resist evil, even to the point of death.

Luke 22:35 And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.”
36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
37 “For I say to you that this which is written must still be eaccomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.”
38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough.”

Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (pp. 1024-1025). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.


61 posted on 10/08/2015 6:15:46 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: markomalley

Every jew a .22


62 posted on 10/08/2015 6:16:15 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Nuc 1.1; sheik yerbouty; Nachum; unkus; vette6387

I believe Caron was stating that the majority of Jews should have been armed. Note that Israel doesn’t put down their weapons. They’re real serious about Never Again.

Meanwhile, Liberals want gun control. Liberalism is a mental disorder; proof positive.

Would you have stood and fought like those in the Warsaw Ghetto or would you meekly have been hauled off to the extermination camps?


63 posted on 10/08/2015 6:17:54 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Lucy Hamilton

I come to exactly the opposite conclusion about the Warsaw ghetto. What was supposed to be a relatively easy extermination mission ended with the nazis bringing in tanks and other armaments and bogged them down for the better part of a month. Ultimately the nazis defeated the Jews, however it was at a much higher cost and it inspired the larger Polish resistance. Also, those who were deported from the ghetto in several instances organized further revolts in the death camps.

The Warsaw ghetto was Thermopylae on a smaller and more amateur scale. The Spartans “lost” at Thermopylae. But not really.


64 posted on 10/08/2015 6:18:13 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: markomalley; All
Many years ago I had the blessing of a 2nd amendment friend loan me a copy of his 4/1996 article in Guns and Ammo that had an interview with the now late Aaron Zelman. I shared it with liberals. One in particular after reading it turned white as a ghost after reading it.....

Read it at the link, and you will probably concur with Dr Carson as did Aaron Zelman who was the founder and President of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/jpfo_g&a.htm

Folks, this is a must read...

65 posted on 10/08/2015 6:19:39 PM PDT by taildragger (It's Cruz & Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

OK, go to the ovens instead of fighting.


66 posted on 10/08/2015 6:21:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: FreedomPoster

BTTT! VERY EXCELLENT POST.


67 posted on 10/08/2015 6:31:51 PM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: markomalley

The Jews of the United States will be SEETHING from this, since they are Democrats/Liberals/Socialists first, and one of their PRIME GOALS in the United States is to DISARM civilians.

The LAST THING they need are presidential candidates talking about the last time they allowed themselves to be disarmed.


68 posted on 10/08/2015 6:36:07 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Lucy Hamilton
Well just read the headline “Carson suggests that gun rights might have CHANGED HISTORY....”

You seem to have interpreted that rather broadly. But let me ask you this. Do you think this http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/10/06/million-issued-dozen-service-life-fp-45-liberator/ could have changed history? Not completely changed overnight, but changed in a nontrivial way?

69 posted on 10/08/2015 6:37:51 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Lucy,

I see you are a newbie here with an international flare.

Welcome to the group. Most of the folks here have well organized thoughts with a depth of diverse experience. Some not so much.

Well thought out argumentative positions are welcome, but be prepared for an overwhelming rebuttal.

namaste’


70 posted on 10/08/2015 6:48:27 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Osage Orange

How can she? She’s in England.


71 posted on 10/08/2015 6:49:06 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Lucy Hamilton
"I personally believe that one should be allowed a gun if that’s what one wants....except if a person has mental health issues of course, that just wouldn’t be a good idea."

How do you define "mental health issues?"

You say "gun," what types of firearms are you referring to?

72 posted on 10/08/2015 6:53:38 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: rabidralph

Good point.


73 posted on 10/08/2015 6:59:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama practices "religion" in the mirror.)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

“Well just read the headline “Carson suggests that gun rights might have CHANGED HISTORY....”

You have yet to clarify why Dr. Carson is wrong. The Jews at that time were disarmed. So tell us, once and for all, why being armed and able to resist would NOT have changed their situation??


74 posted on 10/08/2015 7:01:23 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you're not enraged...why?)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

With a handful of guns and home made bombs, the News of the Warsaw ghetto killed Nazis and held out against the Wehrmacht and SS units for three weeks. Some of them lived to tell the tale..


75 posted on 10/08/2015 7:06:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

I respect your answer, I think Carson’s analogy is generally accurate but my strongest reaction is to the liberals acting like Carson’s comment is offensive. Obviously he does not like the slaughter of schoolkids, or of Jews in Nazi Germany, and he is not trying to be disrespectful to either set of victims.


76 posted on 10/08/2015 7:12:51 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: markomalley

Carson is hundred percent correct.

Read any history of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. Except for the very brief battle and aftermath, the entire story is simply the scramble to find some weapons, any weapons.


77 posted on 10/08/2015 7:14:08 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: FreedomPoster

Great post. Thanks


78 posted on 10/08/2015 7:21:05 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Since 15-9-20


79 posted on 10/08/2015 7:57:25 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: ExTexasRedhead
We need to be heeding what happened in Germany in WWII. Disarming the citizens made the Holocaust like shooting fish in a barrel. Disarming America would likely have a similar outcome, All you have to do is listen to the really scurrilous stuff that's coming from the Left today to know that they would do us all in if they thought they could pull it off. Thankfully, with 300 million guns in private hands, right now it would be foolhardy for them to try.
80 posted on 10/08/2015 7:58:40 PM PDT by vette6387
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