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The Economist calls for removal of New Orleans' Liberty Place monument
Robert McClendon, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune ^ | 10/7/15 | Robert McClendon, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

Posted on 10/07/2015 6:19:55 PM PDT by BBell

The latest issue of The Economist magazine, a center-right publication that claims a weekly readership of 1.5 million, calls for New Orleans to remove its Battle of Liberty Place monument, as well as statues of famous Confederates.

The article takes aim at divisive statuary in general, but it names the Liberty Place obelisk as a concrete example of a monument that merits no public support.

"When public land and resources are used in a way that causes widespread offence, as preserving these state-sponsored tributes does, the authorities should have a good reason for doing so. In (the case of Liberty Place), they don't," the article says.

The Liberty Place monument, which now sits at the foot of Iberville Street in the French Quarter, commemorates a bloody 1874 coup against the Reconstruction government of Louisiana by a band of ex-Confederates.

As is The Economist's tradition, the opinion piece is unsigned.

The piece lays out three main arguments for keeping divisive statues in place, none of which The Economist finds persuasive. The arguments, which have been raised by many New Orleans residents who want to keep the statues, include: the need to preserve history, the existence of more pressing concerns and the difficulty in distinguishing between the relative sins of historic figures.

It is important to preserve history, the magazine writes, but official endorsement of such statues suggests the figures they commemorate "should be not just remembered but publicly revered."

The point echoes a similar theme Mayor Mitch Landrieu has used in his advocacy of the removal of the Liberty Place obelisk and statues of Robert E. Lee, P.G.T. Beauregard and Jefferson Davis, all famous Confederates.

The Historic Development Commission's staff has also raised concerns that allowing the statues to stay in

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: libertyplacemonument; neworleans; theeconomist
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To: BBell

New Orleans needs just one monument - to Katrina. It did more good for New Orleans that anything recent. I hate that the mules drowned though.


21 posted on 10/07/2015 6:50:24 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: BBell

OK....then if you do, then you will not be too surprised when you discover that there will be both white and black opposition to this in South Louisiana.

They will see it as the carpet baggers coming back for another round of abuse and destruction of their heritage.


22 posted on 10/07/2015 6:50:55 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

No I don’t agree. Most people, black and white, could not care a less about the civil war memorials. But this is not a civil war memorial. It is a memorial to white supremacy. The Battle of Liberty Place happened nine and a half years after the civil war ended.


23 posted on 10/07/2015 7:00:25 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

BBell, I am not intending to be confrontational, it’s just that I have seen racial relations set back 60 or more years by this current president.

I am firmly of the belief that forcing people through law and threat only hardens positions or in the recent months has effectively overwritten progress between races.

It did not work after the Civil war.....did it?

Since then there has been gains and a few losses but now it’s all losses while claiming to gain.

It needs to stop....now..


24 posted on 10/07/2015 7:01:28 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: FlingWingFlyer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Olds


25 posted on 10/07/2015 7:02:26 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: BBell
The Liberty Place monument, which now sits at the foot of Iberville Street in the French Quarter, commemorates a bloody 1874 coup against the Reconstruction government of Louisiana by a band of ex-Confederates.

The term Reconstruction Era, in the context of the history of the United States, has two senses: the first covers the complete history of the entire country from 1865 to 1877 following the Civil War; the second sense focuses on the transformation of the Southern United States from 1863 to 1877, as directed by Congress, with the reconstruction of state and society

26 posted on 10/07/2015 7:05:07 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: BBell
No I don’t agree. Most people, black and white, could not care a less about the civil war memorials. But this is not a civil war memorial

It is a civil war monument..and no, many people do care about the history and it's not that they are agreeing with racist policies. it's because that history, good or bad, belongs to them, and by association, all of us.

Frankly, I am a transplanted yankee. I have lived the bigger part of my life in the south and 11 years in and about New Orleans.

The resentment of these attempts to overwrite, hide or otherwise destroy southern history no matter where it is, is becoming palpable and deepening.

If you use your sense that God gave you, you will realize the a second round of reconstruction via carpet bagging yankee doodles is not the answer to race relations. ,

Race relations, that in my experience are better in the South then they are in the North. And that goes back to pre civil war days..

27 posted on 10/07/2015 7:14:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

One thing we agree on is race relations in the South are better than in the North.


28 posted on 10/07/2015 7:25:25 PM PDT by BBell
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To: Vaquero

LOL-—Keynes was a pederast who left letters to his homosexual orgy friends where to find little boys. Don’t cha think the Economist should condemn Keynes and sodomy??????? sodomy of all the little boys, at least???????

Nothing is more vile than the mind of a sodomite like John Maynard Keynes: http://keynesatharvard.org/book/Sugar_Keynes.html

These homosexual men had minds like the Afghani adult muslim males with their harem of dancing boys. Just pure evil warped satanic (learned) desires.


29 posted on 10/07/2015 7:30:03 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: BBell
This left wing rag is still in business ?I thought it died off when it cut back to part time.
Who the heck cares what a far left wing British rag thinks anyways in NOLA .
I don't even recall paying any attention to this statue so why bother .
The crime is unreal .
My wife's family is from the Quarter and we lived there recently until the crime was just too much.
In fact, the tenants who rent the house were held up on Barracks and Royal .
Then when I read about all the patrons getting robbed at one of our favorite places in the Garden .Its a relief to be back in a sleepy beach town.
30 posted on 10/07/2015 7:46:31 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: BBell

There is a reason for it, but you will never read it in a history book or be taught it by a public school teacher, or even hear a talk show host address it.

Blacks and whites in the south have been working, living, and dying together for generations, inspite of every attempt to eliminate the racism of only a few.

I was once hoping that the sense of civility might spread north and to the bigger cities, but everytime it looks like it might, some rabble rousing community organizer comes along.

Even the young today, even in the south are lacking in the old southern social skills that make it possible to live together in peace. I think it’s because their parents did not pass it along, and perhaps the primary reason is that the social compact of the entire country as founded is being wiped away, destroyed, or hidden..and certainly not taught in schools.

This social compact is a requirement for the continuation of the US as a monument to democracy, the shining light and all that...but without it we will devolve into a seething pile of excrement.


31 posted on 10/07/2015 7:47:14 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: BBell

I would not classify the economist as center-right...


32 posted on 10/07/2015 7:50:11 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ncalburt

Yeah it was pretty bad before Katrina but now that the government has fixed it up......well,,,,You know the track record.

And all the cockroaches have returned from Houston, now that it’s all fixed up....errr...repaired.


33 posted on 10/07/2015 7:51:00 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: BBell

The Economist is UK. “royal” buttkissers.


34 posted on 10/07/2015 8:04:15 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Cold Heat
this was the place robbed.
its has really great food.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/09/atchafalaya_restaurant_robbed.html

this was the second robbery of patrons in a few months in uptown - garden area.
unreal

35 posted on 10/07/2015 8:12:47 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Rodamala
Yeah. I snort laughed a bit of Diet Pepsi up my nose at the description of The Economist as "right of center."
36 posted on 10/07/2015 8:24:24 PM PDT by FredZarguna (A Kenyan appears to have infiltrated the lumberyard.)
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To: ncalburt

That’s pretty brazen stuff...low rent punks with guns and they don’t seem to be too fearful of the police.

I don’t recall many of those types of robberys when I was there, crime was mostly B&E stuff, and of course the usual gangbangers having gun fights..and domestic murders..

The NOLA police department has been pretty much gutted more than once since katrina..My best guess is that they are suffering the same symptoms as Boston is....they don’t want to be forced to shoot a armed while black thug...

That’s all it takes to create chaos..


37 posted on 10/07/2015 8:32:04 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Moon ‘s simpleton Son Mitch has destroyed the

Nola police dept when he dragged Barry's white hating DOJ gestapo to drag them over the coals .
Everyone retired that was worth anything.
Mitch was the moron Lt Gov in charge in charge of the State of LA Hurricane evacuation during Katrina.
Mitch is running around talking about moving statues like this left wing rag.
While the white people are getting held up in the nice restaurants in town.
Mitch is a typical stupid Dem playing the race card .

My sister in-law’s
favorite place was robbed too
.
Very nice Uptown address.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/08/patois_robbed_gunpoint_uptown.html

We gave not gone back in 3 years .

38 posted on 10/07/2015 8:55:26 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: BBell

F*ck The Economist and all the rest of the revisionist @sswipes who want to destroy the South for once having had the guts to stand up to an oppressive government.


39 posted on 10/07/2015 9:00:10 PM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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To: Billthedrill

LOL! You should send that comment in to the Economist. Perfect! And I’m a big Nelson fan.


40 posted on 10/07/2015 9:03:33 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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