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Cruz takes exception to pope on death penalty
Politico ^ | 09/24/15 | Seung Min Kim

Posted on 09/27/2015 9:35:07 AM PDT by Isara

In an interview with POLITICO shortly after the pope’s historic address to Congress, the Texas senator said he respects Francis’ views and the Catholic Church’s teachings on the issue, but “as a policy matter, I do not agree.”

“I spent a number of years in law enforcement dealing with some of the worst criminals, child rapists and murderers, people who’ve committed unspeakable acts,” Cruz said. “I believe the death penalty is a recognition of the preciousness of human life, that for the most egregious crimes, the ultimate punishment should apply.”

Cruz also said that whether the death penalty should be in place is an issue that should be left up to each state.

Though Francis touched on several hot-button policy issues during his speech to lawmakers, one of his sharpest messages came on the topic of the death penalty. He called for its “global abolition” and arguing that any punishment should never preclude the chance for rehabilitation.

“I am convinced that this way is the best,” Francis said. “Since every life is sacred, every human person is endowed with an inalienable dignity, and society can only benefit from the rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; deathpenalty; election2016; epa; globalwarminghoax; josemedellin; politico; popefrancis; romancatholicism; seungminkim; tcruz; tedcruz; texas
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To: Isara

I’m going to start making Ted Cruz lawn signs.


21 posted on 09/27/2015 10:08:12 AM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: Isara
Seems to me economics has something to do with housing prisoners: The Vera Institute of Justice released a study in 2012 that found the aggregate cost of prisons in 2010 in the 40 states that participated was $39 billion. The annual average taxpayer cost in these states was $31,286 per inmate. New York State was the most expensive, with an average cost of $60,000 per prison inmate.

Because of our appeal system the average stay on death row can be 40 years...apparently old age kills more of those inmates than "the chair etc".

We have the (federal system) and (US states prison systems)

Then there is (this) some feel gooders call this slave labor...huh?

22 posted on 09/27/2015 10:08:54 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yes he did. At the UN. Most of you talk out of your butt.


23 posted on 09/27/2015 10:08:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: Isara

CA has one unique reason to keep the death penalty;

In the 1980’s our state supreme court justice, Rose Bird, was removed from office for her anti-death stance and rulings that had the effect of nullifying death sentences. Many people were returned to society and most went back to being criminals, many killed again.

Had they been executed, they’d never have been released to kill or maim again.


24 posted on 09/27/2015 10:09:44 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Isara

Here are the two perspectives on this:

1 - In Romans it says basically: “It is good to fear the sword of the state for it has its purpose”.

So, we see capital punishment justified.

2 - The Pope has two concerns:
- outside the U.S. Capital punishment is not subject to the legal scrutiny intended to protect the innocent.
- within the U.S. the Pope wants to maximize the opportunity for the guilty to repent.


25 posted on 09/27/2015 10:11:15 AM PDT by G Larry (Vote Hillary! Pro-Abortion Socialist)
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To: Rappini
Help however you can. I dump all kinds of pro Cruz artwork into twitter and FR every day for free.






26 posted on 09/27/2015 10:13:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: napscoordinator

At the UN??? The People at the UN have NOTHING to do with making abortion Illegal!! He SHOULD have said it to CONGRESS!!!!!


27 posted on 09/27/2015 10:14:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Don’t have a stroke. i answered the question.


28 posted on 09/27/2015 10:16:28 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: napscoordinator

So it’s OK with you that he ONLY mentioned abortion at the UN?


29 posted on 09/27/2015 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Yep, having a pope stand there in the midst of the greatest holocaust in the history of man and rail about ... the weather was unbelievable.

That would be like a pope visiting a concentration camp full of jews during WW2 and never mentioning the gas chambers right behind him, but instead preaching on the evils of checkers.

30 posted on 09/27/2015 10:31:03 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: napscoordinator
so your argument is because liberals have made it long and costly to execute murderers we should stop?

how about this... we execute them immediately after sentencing with a rope.

31 posted on 09/27/2015 10:33:05 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Isara

Jorge Bergoglio is an international socialist and a false prophet, and a very dangerous man to preside at a time of great delusion.


32 posted on 09/27/2015 10:39:54 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Isara

Genesis 9:6 (and more) says Cruz is correct.


33 posted on 09/27/2015 10:49:43 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: Rappini

love your tag line!


34 posted on 09/27/2015 11:03:32 AM PDT by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Isara

Where was the Pope’s open rebuke of abortion and Planned Parenthood, did I miss that?


35 posted on 09/27/2015 11:05:00 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: I want the USA back

Bingo. Frank should read the Catechism:

“2267 Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude the recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only way possible of effectively defending human lives against an unjust oppressor”.

So unless he’s speaking ex cathedra (which he isn’t) his position is not binding on faithful Catholics.


36 posted on 09/27/2015 11:05:25 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Ann Archy
At the UN??? The People at the UN have NOTHING to do with making abortion Illegal!! He SHOULD have said it to CONGRESS!!!!!

APPLAUSE!!!!!!

37 posted on 09/27/2015 11:06:55 AM PDT by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Isara

I support the death penalty, but not for the Federal government and a large number of totalitarian states (CA, NY, MA, MD, CT).

Let’s face it, I don’t think it’s inconceivable that in the near future, the Feds will openly use the death penalty for political dissidents. Even “conservatives” have called for Snowden’s execution for exposing the NSA’s egregious & unconstitutional routine 4th amendment violations. The NDAA gives the president/dictator the authority to classify any person in the U.S. as an enemy combatant and a target for execution.


38 posted on 09/27/2015 11:08:08 AM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: faithhopecharity

Go TED GO!!!!!!


39 posted on 09/27/2015 11:09:02 AM PDT by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Isara
I will be voting for Cruz, but I am not on board on this point. Personally, I believe that life sentences to hard labor NEEDS to be brought back. As in Making big rocks into quarry process with a 18# sledgehammer from sunrise to sunset... for the rest. of. their. miserable. lives.

People are more afraid of hard work than they fear their own mortality.

40 posted on 09/27/2015 11:16:57 AM PDT by Rodamala
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