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To: Norm Lenhart
Thank you Norm.

Trump has several good points. Immigration is one. Fighting back is one. Not taking GOP crap is one.

I appreciate you mentioning some things you agree with him on.  I bet you like his stance on the Second Amendment too.  Next week I think you'll find some things to like about his tax policy.

I'm pretty sure you agree with him that the EPA and Department of Education need to be looked at real hard, to see if we need them any longer.  He appears to be thinking we don't.


But if we forget that he also has far from conservative positions like his healthcare nonsense, we are exactly no different than Obamazombies standing at the styrofoam greek pillars experiencing religious epiphany.

Norm, you lose me here.  It's not because your words wouldn't move me if they were true, but Norm, they aren't true.

Obamacare is unquestionably designed to wind up with a single payer government run plan.  I think I'm safe in saying that's close to universally our perception of Obamacare.

By contrast, Trump advocates a private sector replacement, with the government out of it.  He wants to see state lines lowered so insurance companies can compete nationwide.  He views that to result in competitively priced policies, and a variety of new products.  Isn't that a healthy approach?  That isn't the same as Obamacare.  It's diametrically opposed to Obamacare.  One views the government to be the driver, and the other envisions the government out of health care.

The one problem as I see it is the 45 million currently uninsured.  Isn't it interesting that 45 million was the reason for Obamacare, and yet there they are still uncovered?

Trump wants to see these folks covered.  That will trouble Conservatives unless this can grasp this point.  The uninsured were always covered by the federal government if they presented to an emergency room and couldn't pay their bill.

There must be a better way to cover these people.  Perhaps high deductable plans could be offered with lower premiums, as this would limit any government exposure to $10,000 or some such.

Players from the private sector, health care providers, and insurance companies will have to sit down and come up with a fix.  That could wind up being a lot better than what was taking place before Obamacare.  It could save the federal government a lot of money even if it did wind up having to pay that deductable in the end.  The insurance companies would pick up the rest.


We have to remember he isn’t Reagan. He does not have super powers and if and likely when he wins, it is not going to be what all this adoration for him projects. Thats ‘us’ telling ourselves things he is that he flatly told us he isn’t.

Norm, nobody is going to wind up being Reagan.  We can hope for the best and hold Trump to his word as best we can.  Tell me Norm, do you think Bush was the next Reagan?  I don't believe you think he was.  He screwed us too.  Trump will do some things we don't like.  I guarantee it.  He will also do some things we like very much.  Did Bush do a lot of things we liked very much?  I appreciated his Iraq War efforts.  Many Conservatives don't.  You set that aside, Bush was a disaster.

Will Trump wind up being a disaster?  I dont' believe that for a moment.  He's talking about paying down the debt.  None of the others talk of that.  They talk about reducing spending.  He's talking about rebuilding the miliary and addressing our infrastructure.  This is done by increased revenues from putting people back to work and spending less on government support to the non-working segment of our populace.

Trump won't be pefect.  It would be childish to think so.  None the less I think the guy will be very good for the nation overall.


Sure he’s better than anyone but Cruz running. Look at who is running. Leftists. Hard Leftists. Of course he looks great. Of course his positions are mostly better.

This is true, and isn't that what our goal is after all.

Some are actually worse. And we are utter fools if we do not remember that.

I believe you are correct here.

I do like Cruz with some exceptions.  I would like to see a Trump/Cruz 2016 ticket.  Cruz could help Trump make fewer mistakes.

Make no mistake about it though, Trump will also help Cruz not to make them.  When it comes to our economy and gettig thing back on trask as a nation, Trump is very qualified.  I look forward to seeing what they can do together for this nation.


186 posted on 09/24/2015 12:14:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump, on the subject of health/Obamacare said flatly ‘Sorry Conservatives”. My statement is true. It does not matter one inch if we get to Obamacarelike healthcare with Barry or Donald. Trump did not propose anything near a free market system. He said EVERYONE MUST...MUST be taken care of.


201 posted on 09/24/2015 12:23:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DoughtyOne
Did Bush do a lot of things we liked very much? I appreciated his Iraq War efforts. Many Conservatives don't. You set that aside, Bush was a disaster.

I never could understand the posters who love George W. but hate Jeb. They're cut from exactly the same cloth, and Jeb's Presidency would be exactly like a non-consecutive 3d term for W.

Will Trump wind up being a disaster? I dont' believe that for a moment.

I don't trust Trump and see many of his newly minted conservative views to be the sign of a opportunism rather than conviction, but I'm confident that he would be a better President than the establishment favorites (Hillary and Jeb). That's not setting the bar very high, unfortunately, but it is what it is.

235 posted on 09/24/2015 12:46:05 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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