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A stunning stat about pay seems impossible but actually is true
The Washington Post ^ | September 22, 2015 | Matt O'Brien

Posted on 09/22/2015 4:37:18 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

Once upon a time, American men used to get something called a "raise." That is when your employer would actually pay you more money. Now, it is true that some people still have experience with this all-but-forgotten practice, but even the ones who do tend not to get pay increases that keep up with price increases. That is why, as David Wessel of the Brookings Institution points out, the typical male worker actually saw his after-inflation pay fall between 1973 and 2014.

What is four lost decades between friends?

So why, as you can see below, have median male earnings flatlined over a time when the economy has doubled?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; income; stagflation
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To: ForYourChildren

Hmm... what happened around 1973? Let me think.....

Hint - Gold Standard.


21 posted on 09/22/2015 5:23:14 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: ForYourChildren

16 replies and nobody mentions the obvious. Men make less because women make more. It’s not rocket science. Look at the explosion over the last 40 years of women working high paying jobs.....and sadly the converse. How many men are working jobs that used to be female dominated.

That is one reason. Another reason is that slowly over time, a man’s earning power has been whittled away as families slowly shifted to two income households. At first it was great.....it literally was twice the money. But then men started to accept jobs for pay they would not have been able to accept years ago. Pep boys is a large auto store with mechanics where I live. They pay around $15/hour to start. That is not a wage to support a family. Yet they are staffed. Of course his wife will have to work.


22 posted on 09/22/2015 5:23:29 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: ForYourChildren
Has brooking noted how many were either H 1 Visas Slave laborers or illegals?
I bet not !
23 posted on 09/22/2015 5:25:41 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: CodeToad

The pay of Americans has been cut in half. Not too long ago, the men worked and the women, to a large degree, stayed home. Now, the standard of living is maybe the same, but it takes two incomes to maintain that same standard.


24 posted on 09/22/2015 5:32:05 PM PDT by odawg
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To: ForYourChildren

An interesting side study would be to see how many men are working outside the official economy, and how that has changed over the last 40 years.


25 posted on 09/22/2015 5:33:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: odawg

Taxed more now.


26 posted on 09/22/2015 5:34:59 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: ForYourChildren

Pay raises are only possible in a growing economy. In a shrinking economy, you are the only one left doing your former co-workers’ work - at 20% less pay.


27 posted on 09/22/2015 5:35:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Hugin

” Most employers will happily dump any long time 40+ employee for a twenty something who will work for half as much.”

And the employer ends up hiring 2 or 3 of the cheaper labor to replace the one employee whose insights and experience went out the door.


28 posted on 09/22/2015 5:55:08 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: CodeToad
Senior Engineers in 1972 could make $30,000. Today that would be $274,000, but today Senior Engineers make around $125,000, and pay far more in taxes.

Fixed it.

29 posted on 09/22/2015 6:03:35 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: ForYourChildren

Freepers who are employers...are you part of the problem?

Will you choose to be part of the solution?


30 posted on 09/22/2015 6:16:08 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: ForYourChildren
So why, as you can see below, have median male earnings flatlined over a time when the economy has doubled?

Three words.
Welfare programs explosion.

Power to the indolent!

31 posted on 09/22/2015 6:17:26 PM PDT by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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To: DesertRhino

That is so true. I’ve had more jobs than I care to admit to in the last 25 years. Every time I’ve gone to a new firm I’ve never gotten less than a 15% increase. It’s been real tough the times I was unwillingly out of work, but it has paid well.


32 posted on 09/22/2015 6:22:01 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: ForYourChildren

So why, as you can see below, have median male earnings flatlined over a time when the economy has doubled?

...

Because the Federal Reserve crashes the economy when people start getting pay raises, or to put it another way, when the labor market favors the worker.


33 posted on 09/22/2015 6:25:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Hugin

Yep. Had it happen to me. And I was working for a company ran by the biggest left wing NY Jewish libs you could imagine.

And the President of my division is a boyhood friend of Donald Trump, Jonathan Tisch.


34 posted on 09/22/2015 6:30:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (To hell with the Republican Party. I'm done with them. If I want a Lib Dem I'd vote for one.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Demand, meet supply.

See Illegal Immigration.


Bingo! Can you say: H-1B Visa?!


35 posted on 09/22/2015 6:46:35 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: ForYourChildren
It's important to note that employers don't really dictate wages in this country. Customers do.
36 posted on 09/22/2015 6:51:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: CodeToad

Senior Engineers in 1972 could make $30,000. Today that would be $274,000, but today engineers make around $125,000, and pay far more in taxes.


As the government became involved in the private market the situation grew worse.

Any questions?


37 posted on 09/22/2015 6:55:40 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: BJ1
16 replies and nobody mentions the obvious. Men make less because women make more.

Red is pay deflated by the CPI. Green is total compensation deflated by the CPI. Blue is total compensation (pay plus benefits) deflated by the PCE, the personal consumption expenditures price index, which the Federal Reserve considers more accurate than the CPI.

38 posted on 09/22/2015 7:01:17 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: odawg
Now, the standard of living is maybe the same

Or not.

Of course, you and and I and Donald know who makes that stuff these days. The mystery is why Donald should want to "fix" that 70% reduction in hours needed.

39 posted on 09/22/2015 7:11:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

that graph is depressing if you are a man


40 posted on 09/22/2015 7:16:57 PM PDT by BJ1
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