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Jeb Bush: There’s Not a National Right to Gun Ownership
Freedom Outpost ^ | 9/15/2015 | Oman Coca

Posted on 09/16/2015 8:24:38 AM PDT by HomerBohn

This past week Jeb Bush was a guest on The Late Show with new host Stephen Colbert when Bush said something that some conservative voters might find shocking.

When Colbert asked the Governor if the Constitution implied a national right to gun ownership, Bush seemed to indicate that he believed each state had the right to legislate gun ownership as they see fit.

Stephen Colbert: Well, the right to have an individual firearm to protect yourself is a national document, in the Constitution, so shouldn't that also be applied national…

Jeb Bush: No. Not necessarily…There's a 10th amendment to our country, the Bill of Rights has a 10th amendment that says powers are given to the states to create policy, and the federal government is not the end all and be all. That's an important value for this country, and it's an important federalist system that works quite well.

After the story broke, the Bush campaign contacted the Daily Caller to explain that Bush is a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and that he wasn't trying to argue that states have the right to limit the 2nd Amendment.

Governor Bush is a strong 2nd amendment advocate and reiterated his view that the federal government should not be passing new gun control laws. He believes in states rights and as Governor of Florida he used the 10th Amendment to expand gun rights with a "Six Pack of Freedom" bill and received an A+ ratings from the NRA.

While I appreciate what Governor Bush was trying to say in the interview, that the states are supposed to have as much power as the federal government (thus creating our federal system), on this issue, he is wrong. See, that's the whole point of the Bill of Rights. It's an enumeration of our specific rights that the federal government AND the states must respect. If the 2nd Amendment did not exist… then his 10th Amendment argument would make sense.

Colbert wasn't asking if the government could expand gun rights, he was saying that since the right to gun ownership is nationally mandated so too should gun laws be nationally mandated.

While Jeb tries to use a states-right argument here, he should have simply turned Colbert's argument back on itself. Because the Constitution mandates the right to gun ownership, this means that the federal government (and the state governments) have no right legislating against gun ownership. If we can't trust Jeb to counter a simple and easily refuted attack on the 2nd Amendment, how can we trust him with more complex issues?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; bush; election2016; failure; florida; guncontrol; jebbush; jebtheloser; retarded; secondamendment
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To: HomerBohn

Stay out da Bushes.


81 posted on 09/16/2015 9:59:48 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: taxcontrol

“Just lost any chance he might have had for my vote.”

Jeb NEVER had any chance for my vote!


82 posted on 09/16/2015 10:00:25 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: HomerBohn

His 6% polling is in danger.


83 posted on 09/16/2015 10:01:29 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Little Ray

The unconstitutional “Incorporation Doctrine” has been weighed and found wanting and counterfeit. The 14A was a post-Civil-War Reconstruction amendment limited to making ex-slaves full citizens. There is NO evidence the ratifiers intended to give the feds the sweeping powers the proponents of the “Incorporation Doctrine” claim.

The “Incorporation Doctrine” has lead to the parade of horribles I listed. The feds in this regard are unconstitutional and an unconstitutional federal government is not your friend, it is your enemy and the enemy of your freedom and MUST be resisted at every level in every way.


84 posted on 09/16/2015 10:02:51 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: HomerBohn

I’m betting there won’t be one question about gun control... that issue works FOR Republicans.

The ‘debate’ will deal with issues that matter to democrats... as always...


85 posted on 09/16/2015 10:06:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Jim 0216

Sometimes you are limited to playing by their rules.
If the states can limit RKBA, then they can limit freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
If they can’t limit freedom of speech or religion, then they can’t limit the RKBA.

Personally, I am an absolutist on gun control. If I had my way, I’d roll back all gun laws back to the GCA of 1934, and beyond, to the Sullivan act.


86 posted on 09/16/2015 10:07:05 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: taxcontrol
st lost any chance he might have had for my vote.

He never, ever had any chance fo getting a vote from me, ever. He could be up against Satan himself, and I would not be able to pull the lever for Jeb. It will not happen.

87 posted on 09/16/2015 10:08:32 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: HomerBohn
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88 posted on 09/16/2015 10:09:00 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: taxcontrol
Just lost any chance he might have had for my vote.

I said that when Terry Schiavo died.

89 posted on 09/16/2015 10:11:14 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: HomerBohn
the Bill of Rights has a 10th amendment that says powers are given to the states

No, the 10th Amendment doesn't give powers to the states. It says the states retain all those powers not given to the Federal government. Just as the 2nd Amendment doesn't grant a right to own firearms. It protects a right that already exists.

If Jeb doesn't understand the Constitution, he'd be a very dangerous president. Like the one we already have.

90 posted on 09/16/2015 10:13:23 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: RoosterRedux

Argh, Go away, jeb. I am goin’ to stay home if I am stuck with a turd like you!


91 posted on 09/16/2015 10:13:55 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Little Ray

Yes, but the BIG PROBLEM AND ISSUE is the feds are not the ones to enforce this. The feds, as usual, are the problem, not the solution. The citizens of each individual state have to solve these issues. Generally, it is certainly not the states that threaten gun ownership, but the feds.


92 posted on 09/16/2015 10:16:41 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Kozy

This is what happens when a Mexican runs for president. He doesn’t know US law and history.


Yup


93 posted on 09/16/2015 10:18:06 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: taxcontrol

A lot of Democrats aren’t even dumb enough to do THAT.


94 posted on 09/16/2015 10:19:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jim 0216

“No, YOU need to actually READ the first Ten Amendments which in fact IS a Bill of Restrictions on the Federal Government and no one else.”

Yeah, you have the right to free speech, unless the State says otherwise, etc. You have the right to 5th amendment protections, unless the State says otherwise.

This is why our country is failing, the public school systems has failed to educate people like you, so they think stupid thoughts and act on them.

Seriously, you need an education.


95 posted on 09/16/2015 10:21:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: HomerBohn

Outside of his dramatic WWII navel experience Bush1 and the family were never die hard US Constitutionalists. That mama Bush would consider Bill Clinton like a son tells much. The Bush family sees themselves as elitists of US society. The first gulf war was as much to protect the Saudi family as it was to get rid of Hussein. For me the death of my brother on Okinawa in hand to hand fighting was as much and even more bravery than Bush1 in an airplane.


96 posted on 09/16/2015 10:22:03 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: HomerBohn

97 posted on 09/16/2015 10:24:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Jim 0216
"No, YOU need to actually READ the first Ten Amendments which in fact IS a Bill of Restrictions on the Federal Government and no one else."


98 posted on 09/16/2015 10:24:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

There is NOTHING in the first Ten Amendments that gives the feds authority of enforcement.

You don’t get it. The feds are NOT your friend and have perpetrated the parade of horrible I’ve listed.

If you don’t get that the feds outside of their constitutional limitations are your enemy, you don’t get anything.


99 posted on 09/16/2015 10:31:26 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: HomerBohn

IMO, communists are civilized compared to what we are inviting in and giving housing to.


100 posted on 09/16/2015 10:34:59 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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