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Father who lost son warns parents on guns
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 09/11/2015 | Mari A. Schaefer,

Posted on 09/12/2015 2:09:37 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

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Very sad story. It is my understanding the wrong type of gun lock was used but I am not knowlegabe enough about all the details of the case.
1 posted on 09/12/2015 2:09:37 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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If it was suicide, the kid would have found another way to do it if the gun wasn’t available.


2 posted on 09/12/2015 2:13:19 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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"Owning a gun for personal protection is not a good idea," he said.

I'm sorry his son committed suicide, but this is not a strong argument. At all.

3 posted on 09/12/2015 2:13:24 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Cruz is still my #1, but Trump is impressing the hell out of me.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Gee, guns are dangerous....who knew?


4 posted on 09/12/2015 2:13:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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IF the kid went to that much trouble to kill himself, then the fix was in. If he hadn’t used a gun, he would have found something else.


5 posted on 09/12/2015 2:14:45 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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"I am convinced if I didn't have a gun in the house, Cayman would be alive today," he said.

Sorry for his loss, but if his son was truly suicidal and he as a parent was not aware then his child would have killed himself some other way if a gun wasn't handy, plenty of people have committed suicide by hanging . If it was suicide by hanging would the brady group have reached out to use his loss to their advantage?

6 posted on 09/12/2015 2:15:58 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Bingo. I hope Farid and his audience have done a better job hiding their pills, razor blades, knives, car keys, etc. and they do not allow any of their children to visit states that have legalized “assisted suicide.”


7 posted on 09/12/2015 2:22:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Liberals keep looking for ways to be offended. I keep looking for ways to offend them.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s a cruel world. If the kid hadn’t been able to get a gun, he’d have jumped off something high, or off something not-so-high with a rope around his neck, ingested something poisonous, sliced himself open. Or just taken a walk through the wrong ‘hood at night...


8 posted on 09/12/2015 2:23:08 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Maybe only half what he said is true.. don’t know were not there!!! Maybe he forgot to put on the gun lock...


9 posted on 09/12/2015 2:24:29 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Just curious. Is there a single part of this story that isn't bogus? Was there even a real suicide?

Is there anyone or has there ever been a person in this family who isn't or wasn't weak in the mind?

10 posted on 09/12/2015 2:24:33 PM PDT by stevem
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” the gun Naib thought he had so carefully concealed. “

He should have tried a better hiding place like this....
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3334549/posts


11 posted on 09/12/2015 2:26:54 PM PDT by patq
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To: Kid Shelleen

“I suffered a deeply tragic, personal loss...where is the limelight?”


12 posted on 09/12/2015 2:28:48 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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“Farid Naib”

Allah ackbar?


13 posted on 09/12/2015 2:37:44 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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It’s a limp wristed liberal argument aimed at blaming law-abiding responsible people.

His son had way more issues than just access to a gun.

Besides, my personal protection is my business and responsibility. It’s none of his concern.


14 posted on 09/12/2015 2:46:24 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This Hispanic wants a wall, the National Guard, and turrets guarding our border)
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You have to feel sorry for this guy. While firearms are a tool that can be used for good or bad, I make every effort to keep mine away from the kids - and they have all been taught to shoot and they know about firearms safety.

The worst story I have heard recently was the young mother who was carrying her pistol in the shopping cart at Walmart in Hayden, Idaho, with a toddler. I read that she had a new concealed carry purse and somehow her toddler accessed it and killed the mother in the store. Tragic beyond words.

I am pro-gun, but at some point I had to admit that maybe it might make sense for a person with toddlers to carry their semi-automatic without one in the pipe if it’s not on their person. Very low crime area and if you have to dig it out of the purse it is unlikely you can draw that quickly to begin with.

That one really shook me up. Does not change my opinion of the 2nd amendment in any way, but you have to ask what did more harm - carrying locked and loaded in a purse or the slim chance you are a crime victim in a very low crime area?

I believe if you are going to carry you have it on your person, but having three young kids I understand how it only takes a second of inattentiveness for them to get into something! Can’t imagine what that family (and the child) will go through for the rest of their lives.

Yes, I understand this story is quite a bit different. I still feel very sorry for the father because clearly he blames himself (and gun ownership) for his sons suicide. There was obviously a problem much larger than the firearm (a tool) with his son. Don’t think a parent ever recovers from something like that!


15 posted on 09/12/2015 2:46:33 PM PDT by volunbeer
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To: Kid Shelleen

Very sad. A lot of us were taught gun handling from age 5 by our fathers. Even our mothers knew how to handle, fire and clean their gun. It was not big deal. All of a sudden we have a bunch of “super” smart people who are afraid to teach their children what a gun is for and not use it except for that purpose. Most Americans, until about the 1960s and 70s knew how to handle a gun. Until the mid 80s, Texans hand their rifles stashed on a rack against the back window of their trucks, even high school kids. NOW??? The girly boy legislatores have made that illegal. A shame.


16 posted on 09/12/2015 2:54:31 PM PDT by tillacum
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Sad, but if a kid wants to kill himself he'll find a way.

And gun control doesn't look like his only liberal cause.

17 posted on 09/12/2015 2:55:15 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I’ve managed to dry-fire a handgun _with_ a trigger lock firmly attached.


18 posted on 09/12/2015 2:55:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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Sad my petunia. Some father ignores the warning signs of their child and then wants me to give up my God given right?

I think not.

The father obviously only had a pair once.


19 posted on 09/12/2015 2:56:43 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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Dollars to doughnuts the deceased was government educated.
You see, public schools are a tool by which Darkness plants malware / Trojan viruses into the human psyche within every subject the “preach”.


20 posted on 09/12/2015 2:57:21 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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