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Trump on Kim Davis: I hate to see her being sent to jail but the law is the law
Hotair ^ | 09/04/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/04/2015 9:57:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Roman_War_Criminal

RE: 9 Black Robes DO NOT MAKE THE LAW!

Make that 5 blacked robes.


201 posted on 09/04/2015 11:25:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: Harpotoo

Oh come on! The American public did not rise up in any meaningful fashion when the SCOTUS RULED Gay Marriage is the Law of the Land.

I think everyone was beat down. This was a 20+ year battle.
It wasn’t like it happened over night.
‘Gay Marriage’ was forced on people. First State by State. The majority of States overwhelming voted against gay marriage..including California.
State by state they were strong armed to “except it”.
With a lopsided liberal SC making the final decision.

Of course, the best solution, in my not so humble opinion, would have been to do away with government ‘marriage’ altogethr. The government is incable of being non-discriminatory. Because as it gives special favor to a one it is discriminating against another group.
The best solution is for GOVERNMENT to get out of “marriage” altogether.
It is not necessary for GOVERNMENT to have ANYTHING to do with “marriage”
Marriage is a non-government, non-political person ceremony.


202 posted on 09/04/2015 11:27:16 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The idea that we are subject to "the rule of law, not the rule of men" has been a cornerstone principle of conservatism for as long as I can remember. It is heard on this forum many, many times.

It does NOT mean that we invariably respect the content of civil law, or that we do not recognize a higher law or a natural law, but that we honor due process in changing those civil laws we object to, and until they change we either obey them or engage in civil disobedience, as this clerk has done and as Martin Luther King, Jr. did.

Having said that, the imposition of law by judicial fiat - as was done here - undermines the very concept of respect for the law, and many posters here are reflecting that sentiment. The repeated imposition of laws at the national level - with no clear foundation either in the Constitution or in our history, often by votes as narrow as 5-4 - undermines the rule of law, and makes it hard not to see the law as anything but a sham.

As for myself, if I am ever again called to jury duty, and if I'm asked to base my decisions on what the law says, and not what I think it says, I will say, "No. The Supreme Court doesn't have to, so neither will I. The only guy in this court who really matters is the guy over there [the bailiff] with the gun. Everything else is just a costume party."
203 posted on 09/04/2015 11:29:14 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: dmz
Trump qualifies as a social conservative. He is pro-traditional marriage and against gay rights.

He is also pro-rule of law.

This is a difference of opinion on tactics not principles.

42 reasons why Trump is a conservative

204 posted on 09/04/2015 11:29:53 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Norm Lenhart

“Look we know you are being an ass, so why hide it.”

Boo Boo: “ I don’t think Jesus is gonna like this, Yogi “


205 posted on 09/04/2015 11:30:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: greene66

We are now indeed a country of men, not of laws. All bets are off.
We are not ruled by the men and women in black robes and its insane that people are saying something is “the rule of law” that is the product of the abuse of power and violation of the constitution.
What should be done is that these judges should be shown the law up close and personal.

PLEASE PLEASE
The above seems to be calling for some form of anarchy. This argument has been on going since Madison v. Marbury. From that case it has been stated numerous times, “he who has the power to interpret the laws is the law maker”


206 posted on 09/04/2015 11:32:24 AM PDT by cynicalman
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To: Raycpa

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>> “What a novel idea. A future president campaigning on following the law.” <<

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Only of that (false) Law destroys real marriage to create a toy for sodomists!

That is what Trump is defending here.

Were it a law destroying all insider trading, I’m sure he would be solidly on the other side.
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207 posted on 09/04/2015 11:32:49 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I guess it was a goofup when they put “answer a fool according to his folly” in the Proverbs. I so missed that. My bad, Lord.


208 posted on 09/04/2015 11:33:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: cynicalman

Sorry it’s Marbury vs Madison


209 posted on 09/04/2015 11:35:33 AM PDT by cynicalman
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To: SeekAndFind

Why didn’t any federal judge ever insist that the politicians who flouted our immigration laws - the “sanctuary city” people - either comply with the law or face jail time? Why do they only come after opponents of gay marriage?


210 posted on 09/04/2015 11:36:02 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Leep

The American mode is to rise up over an example of a cause.

Well it just appeared.


211 posted on 09/04/2015 11:36:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: skippyjonjones

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We once were a nation of laws until Marbury vs Madison.

Now the courts can re-write any law they wish, to suit their fancy.

Trump, being pro-pederast marriage, loves this departure from the constitution.

As has been said, Trump would dismantle the constitution way faster than Obingo has.
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212 posted on 09/04/2015 11:36:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Well, I would say that this fight that Kim Davis is going through ( something she did not start ) is worth it as well.”

Just remember that the sequence was Dred Scott -> Civil War -> Civil Rights Act/14th Amendment. Not saying it’s not worth the fight, just keep that in mind.


213 posted on 09/04/2015 11:38:13 AM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: Because their signature is not required on the marriage license, only the chief clerk’s is. Their opinion doesn’t matter any more than the janitor’s opinion.

There is a very easy solution to this — GO TO A JUDGE ( one judge in the county was willing to do the signing ) or go to a neighboring county ( there are 120 counties in Kentucky ).

The gays INSIST however in coming to Kim Davis.

This is the same as the Colorado gays who INSIST on going to the Christian Baker for their cake when they knew he would refuse and there are hundreds of other bakers out there who would be willing to do it for them ( and the Christian baker even referred them to a few ).

It’s not about getting a license, it’s about the HUNT

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Exactly, they're TARGETING clerks based on knowledge of their religious beliefs -- or put another way, religious persecution.

Few are talking about the fact that the Supreme Court ruling should have been 4 to 3 against -- two of the justices should have recused themselves for conflict of interest because both of them had previously performed same-sex marriages. I'm sure if you haven't heard who they are you could guess which ones!

214 posted on 09/04/2015 11:38:22 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Norm Lenhart

Look, I’d love to be charitable, but it is a head scratcher how is it even POSSIBLE here. Maybe the un-lionheart is right. Just ignore him. Because he’s just going to be a fount of arrogant taunts. I need to switch over to DON’T answer a fool according to his folly.


215 posted on 09/04/2015 11:38:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: editor-surveyor

So when President Obama holds himself above “false” law its not okay, but if future President Trump submits to “false” law its also not okay? It seems to me you are advocating that its okay if we do it but not okay if the other guy does it.


216 posted on 09/04/2015 11:39:19 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SeekAndFind

Dredd Scott was the law of the land until the 14th amendment. It took 22 years and a civil war, but eventually the legal process was used to correct the law.

So where are you going with this? Are you suggesting it’s time for civil war?


217 posted on 09/04/2015 11:40:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

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The KY clerk has chosen the law! (and the constitution)

The SCOTUS has chosen to foster rebellion.

Trump being a far left democrat, is well in step with this demolition of the constitution.
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218 posted on 09/04/2015 11:41:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: PLMerite

We had Jim Crow laws —>Rosa Parks -—> Martin Luther King Jr. -—> Civil Rights Act of 1964.

We can follow that model.


219 posted on 09/04/2015 11:42:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: PLMerite

Embracing evil will lead to embracing more evils and that’s a good an explanation as any of the Civil War. Slavery made the people hard hearted and that took away from any otherwise conciliatory attitude.


220 posted on 09/04/2015 11:42:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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