Posted on 08/31/2015 3:19:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
A nice catch by Sam Stein of HuffPo from Rand’s interview with Boston Herald Radio. Skip to around 11:00 for the key bit.
I … did not expect a competition between Hillary Clinton and Rand Paul over who could conjure up a better Nazi allusion for Republicans. Or rather, I didn’t expect it until the election turned to foreign policy.
“There have been a lot of dumb ideas put out,” Paul said, speaking with Boston Herald Radio. “One that the Mexicans will pay for a wall, [which] was probably the dumbest of dumb ideas. But putting a wall up between us and Canada is sort of a ridiculous notion. It is sort of like everybody is now competing to say, ‘Oh no, I’ll put them in camps. Oh no, I’ll throw them out. Oh no, I’ll put everyone in jail. And I’ll have an electric fence, and I’ll do this.’ And it’s like, you know, the biggest thing we need to do is have a functioning immigration system, with a good work program.”
You should know the punchline here already: By libertarian standards, Paul is an extreme border hawk himself. Shikha Dalmia, a policy analyst at the Reason Foundation, ripped him apart last month for taking the same sort of law-and-order approach to illegals, replete with a double-layered border fence and “100% incarceration until trial for newly-captured illegal entrants and overstays,” that he routinely decries with respect to the war on drugs. As such, you can view this “camps” wisecrack in one of two ways. One: The race to be hawkier-than-thou between Trump and the rest of the field, Scott Walker most conspicuously, has now reached a point of such absurdity that hyperbole about camps isn’t that outlandish. I mean, we have the governor of Wisconsin, a top-tier presidential candidate despite his polling slide lately, entertaining the idea of a border wall with Canada.
Paul’s goofing on the idea of where this silly one-upsmanship is apt to lead rhetorically. Two: With his campaign in deep trouble among the sort of mainstream conservatives he’s spent the last few years trying to woo, Rand’s decided to embrace his dad’s base and hope that libertarians will carry him back into contention. That’s why Ron’s endorsement was rolled out a few weeks ago. There is no “Rand Paul coalition,” it seems, but there may still be a Ron Paul rEVOLution out there. Coopting it requires some signaling that Rand’s still a true blue libertarian at heart and goofing on the GOP for demanding strong borders is one way to do that. (Interestingly, Ron Paul is himself more of a border hawk than many libertarian ideologues, although not as much as is often alleged.)
Further evidence that Rand’s ready to embrace his inner Randian: This tweet from his campaign on Saturday.
Behind me is the NSA. When I'm President we'll turn it into a Constitutional Center to study the Fourth Amendment! pic.twitter.com/f19A5ZyYEI
— Dr. Rand Paul (@RandPaul) August 29, 2015
I thought Rand’s problem with the NSA was that it casts far, far too wide a net, ensnaring millions of innocent American citizens, in gathering metadata to try to find terrorists. Now he’s suggesting that we need to get rid of the NSA and its signals intelligence capability entirely? What?
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The Pauls, showing the result of recreational drug use for decades.
There is already a wall between Canada and the US and it is electronic.
What a a schmuck...
Hillary said to put US here in camps...
Illegals are not citizens, do not have the protections of CITIZENSS, means we can deport them, and if need be warehouse them as we are deporting them.
Rand is a fool
Desperate much????
Now I only read the headline; but I do have to ask the crazy person, will the camps have SHOWERS?
LOL! I remember the Ron Paul supporters from the last election. All 8-10 of them would set up shop in a small parking lot of an out-of-business establishment and wave their signs at cars going by. I have to admit that they were persistent though.
It wasn't the NSA headquarters in the picture, it was a particular NSA data center in Utah that is used for spying on phone calls. That nuance is lost in a 140-character twitter message.
Rand Paul's immigration speech...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reformLatinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Ron Paul and Buchanan are the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of the Jew-hating, Israel-hating, henotheist palaeo right. I wonder if they take the same position on illegal immigrants? We all know where Buchanan stands (and Rand), but where does Ron stand?
Rand Paultard is a Libertarian for Socialism. For the most part, immigrants to the US are not supporters of liberty. Those libertarians who support even current levels of legal immigration, are helping import socialists. Enthralled with the idea a market and unable or unwilling to look at reality, they will help make the US less free. If they actually believed in limited government and reality, they would support reducing immigration, and Americanizing immigrants. Some will say that the problem is the welfare state and not immigrants, and yet they won’t even stop promoting increased immigrations while we have a welfare state. And, of course, the problem remains that new voters support the welfare state. But I’m sure I will play Cassandra for pointing this out, as libertopians choose to open the gates themselves.
He’s a Democrat in all but name and a demagogue.
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