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Ted Cruz Is the Only GOP Candidate Who Knows How to Handle Donald Trump
New York ^ | 8/26/15 | Marin Cogan

Posted on 08/28/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by VinL

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To: duffee

I am a Christian too, and I’m still having some doubts about him.


81 posted on 08/28/2015 8:55:51 AM PDT by Catsrus (The Great Wall of Trump - coming to a southern border near you.)
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To: kabar
Offering an amendment to stop citizenship amnesty in the Gang of Eight Bill, doesn't mean one is for the rest of the bill. Cruz has never said that he is for legalization of 20 million illegals.

If you subtract the criminals, Trump as said that he has.

82 posted on 08/28/2015 9:06:38 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: VinL

Unfortunately Cruz can’t win in the general but Trump can. Reagan Democrats will vote for Trump but they will not vote for Cruz. Cruz is a dirty word to most democrats and Trump is building his base or Rs and Ds for Trump, not Cruz.


83 posted on 08/28/2015 9:15:29 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: crager

Thats certainly a factor, but Cruz is being a pragmatist in positioning himself for all of the following possible outcomes:

Trump wins the nomination outright: Cruz is positioned to be VP

Trump flames out: Cruz is positioned to pick up his supporters and take the nomination.

Trump flames out, another candidate wins the nomination: Cruz is positioned to pick up Trump’s supporters and use them as leverage for the VP nom. Think Sarah Palin pulling Conservatives to McCain in 08.

Trump doesn’t flame out, doesn’t get the nomination and the convention is brokered: Trump plays kingmaker for Cruz, or Cruz plays kingmaker for Trump.

Cruz has managed to cover all of his bases here. Every single one of them. No matter what happens he wins in some manner or another.

Now is it because Cruz is just that brilliant, or because all the other GOP candidates besides Trump are stupid?


84 posted on 08/28/2015 9:22:54 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: VinL

I see this article as NEW YORK’s effort at driving a wedge between Trump andd Cruz. At the first sign that Cruz has ulterior motives in his “friendship” with Donnie, he’ll get flushed down the tubes in a NEW YORK minute.


85 posted on 08/28/2015 9:25:57 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Right Brother
Yeah. When the guy leading by double digits exits the race. Yeah. Sure. Got it.

Remind me again how well the Rudy Giuliani presidency went? Oh yeah, right...

86 posted on 08/28/2015 9:26:24 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: golux
He is the only candidate that could totally wipe the floor with any Democrat on any subject in any national debate.

He didn't wipe anyone's floor when asked the question about deporting the family.

He was the one who was ducking and weaving to avoid giving an answer.

Trump, the macho man he is, straight away hammered his answer home.

87 posted on 08/28/2015 9:26:51 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: kabar

Cruz denies the GOPe candidates the ring wing of the GOP, Trump denies the GOPe candidates the center of the GOP (maybe even a little of the left wing). Carson denies the GOPe candidates the left wing of the GOP. Together (Ted, Ben and Trump) all they leave the GOPe candidates are those voters that are loyal to the man or to the mans’ family (Bush). Trump wants Ted and Ben to stay in the race. Ben and Ted are helping Trump win the nomination.


88 posted on 08/28/2015 9:28:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: VanDeKoik

That and the “faux filibuster” remark. Not sure how speaking on the Senate floor in opposition to a bill till your voice and gives out to demonstrate a point isn’t a real filibuster. Maybe it has to be in opposition to, oh I don’t know, civil rights for black folks like the Democrats did to be genuine.


89 posted on 08/28/2015 9:31:20 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: FreeReign
Offering an amendment to stop citizenship amnesty in the Gang of Eight Bill, doesn't mean one is for the rest of the bill. Cruz has never said that he is for legalization of 20 million illegals.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

If the Cruz amendment had been adopted, legalization would have been the result. Cruz just wanted to eliminate the path to citizenship. That is still his position, which is why he evaded Kelly's question.

If you subtract the criminals, Trump as said that he has.

No, he has never said all would be allowed to return. He has never defined the "good ones" besides saying that the length of time would be a factor. I think it undermines his position that all should go, but this is far different than the Cruz position of legalization without a path to citizenship. That is still amnesty despite Cruz's attempt to redefine the meaning of the word.

And Cruz wants to increase the guest worker programs at a time when we have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. NumbersUSA gave Cruz a B minus on the protection of American workers compared to Trump's A minus.

90 posted on 08/28/2015 9:33:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: stanne

As VP Cruz would be president of the senate and could control the senate agenda.


91 posted on 08/28/2015 9:34:35 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: jpsb

Trump said as much yesterday in SC. He said he liked Cruz and mentioned the event in DC against the Iran deal. He said that Cruz has not attacked him and he wouldn’t attack Cruz, but he did say that the time might come that he would have to go after Cruz.


92 posted on 08/28/2015 9:36:29 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
If the Cruz amendment had been adopted, legalization would have been the result.

Being for an amendment, in this case the Cruz amendment, doesn't mean that one is for the bill once the amendment is passed. One could then introduce more amendments until one gets the desired bill.

Cruz has never said that he is for legalization nor has he ever voted on such a bill that is for legalization.

No, he has never said all would be allowed to return.

Trump has clearly said over-and-over again which ones he thinks aren't the "good ones", the rapists, drug dealers and all the rest of the criminals.

He clearly wants to expedite all the rest back in.

So what are there, 20 million non criminal illegal aliens?

That's quit a legalization amnesty.

93 posted on 08/28/2015 9:42:11 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kabar
And Cruz wants to increase the guest worker programs at a time when we have the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years.

I am against Cruz wanting to increase the guest worker program, but I still find it preferable to Trump's over-and-back, expedited amnesty for the "good ones".

94 posted on 08/28/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Catsrus

Maybe—just maybe—He likes Trump. Maybe he sees more in this race than just winning—like maybe—SAVING THE NATION!


95 posted on 08/28/2015 9:48:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: FreeReign

Making illegals return to their country of origin is amnesty? LOL, that is going to be a very hard thing to sell.


96 posted on 08/28/2015 9:50:18 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: FreeReign
Offering an amendment to stop citizenship amnesty in the Gang of Eight Bill, doesn't mean one is for the rest of the bill. Cruz has never said that he is for legalization of 20 million illegals.
So he offers an amendment to a bill that he has no intention of supporting/voting for...got it.
97 posted on 08/28/2015 9:54:57 AM PDT by lewislynn (Meghan Kelley...#sand--Rosie, the Don was right-- Hillary, lipstick on a pig)
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To: jpsb
Making illegals return to their country of origin is amnesty? LOL, that is going to be a very hard thing to sell.

So when Trump says over-and-over again that he then wants to expedite the "good ones" back into the country for a legalization, how is that not a legalization for 20 million?

Trump is "selling" it, and you're buying it.

LOL.

98 posted on 08/28/2015 10:00:11 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: lewislynn
Being for an amendment, in this case the Cruz amendment, doesn't mean that one is for the bill once the amendment is passed. One could then introduce more amendments until one gets the desired bill.

So he offers an amendment to a bill that he has no intention of supporting/voting for...got it.

No you don't "have it". Try again.

99 posted on 08/28/2015 10:03:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Cruz has never said that he is for legalization nor has he ever voted on such a bill that is for legalization.

I just gave you an exact quote for him. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

He clearly wants to expedite all the rest back in.

As someone who has actually issued visas, most of them would not qualify for a tourist visa, let alone an immigrant visa. Almost all of them have committed other crimes besides entering illegally. They have worked illegally, committed ID theft, lied on employment forms, evaded taxes, stolen or created SSNs, etc. Once they leave, they will find it hard to get back if we enforce our laws.

As someone who has worked on the immigration issue for over 8 years lobbying on the Hill, I have developed a major BS detector. If I could, I would force Cruz to come clean on the issue by asking him specific questions to flush him out. I have followed him closely ever since he ran for the Senate.

Trump has presented the best immigration potions paper of any candidate for President for decades. We all know it was drated by Jeff Sessions. Unfortunately, Trump undermines it with his off-cuff remarks. If he were to stick with the points in the paper, he would win in a walk.

The most important part of the paper, Put American Workers First, is not being discussed. I know why the MSM, Dems, and GOPe do not want it discussed, but I am at a loss why Trump is not pushing it more. It is revolutionary and would attract votes from traditional Dem constituencies. Perhaps, he will mention it when he addresses the black Chamber of Commerce in a few weeks.

100 posted on 08/28/2015 10:03:42 AM PDT by kabar
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