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Ted Cruz Is the Only GOP Candidate Who Knows How to Handle Donald Trump
New York ^ | 8/26/15 | Marin Cogan

Posted on 08/28/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by VinL

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To: austinaero

[Trump has pretty much tied the media in knots and that is something Cruz has never done. They are a complimentary set and I wish the hard core Cruzers would follow Cruz’s lead and embrace the situation rather than act all high and mighty and post screeds against Trump all day long. Why not follow Cruz’s lead if you admire him? I would say a person who likes Cruz and doesn’t follow Cruz’s example is a hypocrite.]

Cruz is an amazing person and would be hard to emulate, so it would be hard to expect most people — including his followers — to be like him.


61 posted on 08/28/2015 8:13:56 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: VinL

No, he doesn’t.


62 posted on 08/28/2015 8:15:15 AM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: VinL

Trump needs to stay in this until Jeb is knocked out. It’s not enough to beat him up a few rounds. And it’s likely that trump is the only one that can get him out


63 posted on 08/28/2015 8:17:21 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: IAMNO1

JFK won the electoral vote 303 to 219. Winning IL would not have put Nixon on top. IL had 27 electoral votes.


64 posted on 08/28/2015 8:17:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: chris37
It really doesn’t matter what conservative is pro anything. Conservatives do not seem to be able to enact into existence anything that they are for. And they don’t seem to be able to stop anything that they are against.

My point stands.

Cruz and Trump are both for a wall.

And your point is what? That we need a non conservative to get things done?

65 posted on 08/28/2015 8:18:26 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kjam22

Why would Trump get out when he is on top?


66 posted on 08/28/2015 8:18:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Who knows why he might? I like trump / Cruz. But if trump gets out I hope it s not until Jeb is knocked out. Only trump can get that done


67 posted on 08/28/2015 8:24:17 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: FreeReign
Cruz is for legalizing the lawbreakers in place. Trump is not. Cruz is for increasing substantially H-1B visas, Trump is not. Cruz takes no position on reducing current legal permanent immigration numbers, i.e., 1.1 million a year. Trump wants to have legal immigration return to historical levels, i.e, 195,000 a year.

Cruz has never highlighted the American victims of illegal alien crimes. Trump has.

68 posted on 08/28/2015 8:25:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL

Trump is smart enough to know talent when he sees it. I suspect is not one of those people afraid to hire someone smarter than himself.


69 posted on 08/28/2015 8:27:19 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: kjam22

And I hope that if Cruz gets out, it is not until Jeb is knocked out.


70 posted on 08/28/2015 8:27:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Cruz is for legalizing the lawbreakers in place.

Source?

Trump is not.

Trump is for an over-and-back legalization amnesty for ~19 million.

Trump wants to have legal immigration return to historical levels, i.e, 195,000 a year.

Source?

71 posted on 08/28/2015 8:30:50 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

History shows that if you want any sort of conservative success at all, you find a former democrat who agrees with you.

I don’t think Cruz supporting a wall matters at all, because frankly, the problem is bigger than just a wall.

And beyond that, Cruz does not seem to be able to effectively sell his positions or himself to American voters.

So it really doesn’t matter what he supports, because it doesn’t appear that he’s going to be president.


72 posted on 08/28/2015 8:35:00 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: kjam22

Think you’re right.


73 posted on 08/28/2015 8:38:52 AM PDT by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: austinaero
Too bad the hard-core Cruzers here can’t follow the lead of the man they say they admire (Cruz) and cut out the Trump snark. It’s just not necessary.

Bears repeating...

74 posted on 08/28/2015 8:44:00 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: austinaero

Good post... I like both. I think Cruz is an honorable and humble guy. He is also one that really understands that the DC Cartel has to be taken down. I think Cruz surely would like to win but I think if Trump can take on the cartel he’d be okay with supporting Trump too to do the job. I think this why they are more or less working together.


75 posted on 08/28/2015 8:46:24 AM PDT by crager (I went to look for myself and if I happen to return while I'm gone tell me to wait.)
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To: VinL

That’s true,,can give you that. And does it really matter who starts it? Let’s finish it by getting along,,all of us.


76 posted on 08/28/2015 8:46:34 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: FreeReign
Source?

Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration

What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.

Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

Trump is for an over-and-back legalization amnesty for ~19 million

No, he says he will allow the "good ones" to come back. He didn't put a number on it. He also said he would deport all criminal aliens and stop the practice of catch and release.

Source?

It is obvious you have not read Trump's detailed position paper on immigration. Here is the excerpt on the reduction of legal immigration.

Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.

77 posted on 08/28/2015 8:47:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Vision Thing

I understand your point but is it hard for his followers, and I am one also, to follow his lead and try to get along with Trump? That’s what I’m talking about.


78 posted on 08/28/2015 8:47:25 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Catsrus

“I just can’t get past this deep gut feeling that something isn’t ringing true with him.”

It’s because he’s a righteous man and were conditioned to expect politicians to be less to be much less than that.


79 posted on 08/28/2015 8:53:38 AM PDT by duffee (No money to the Mississippi Republican Party as long as joe nosef is chairman)
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To: VinL

The writer is behind the times—Trump’s already had his first poll giving him 40% of the GOP primary vote.


80 posted on 08/28/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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