Posted on 08/28/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by VinL
[Trump has pretty much tied the media in knots and that is something Cruz has never done. They are a complimentary set and I wish the hard core Cruzers would follow Cruzs lead and embrace the situation rather than act all high and mighty and post screeds against Trump all day long. Why not follow Cruzs lead if you admire him? I would say a person who likes Cruz and doesnt follow Cruzs example is a hypocrite.]
Cruz is an amazing person and would be hard to emulate, so it would be hard to expect most people — including his followers — to be like him.
No, he doesn’t.
Trump needs to stay in this until Jeb is knocked out. It’s not enough to beat him up a few rounds. And it’s likely that trump is the only one that can get him out
JFK won the electoral vote 303 to 219. Winning IL would not have put Nixon on top. IL had 27 electoral votes.
My point stands.
Cruz and Trump are both for a wall.
And your point is what? That we need a non conservative to get things done?
Why would Trump get out when he is on top?
Who knows why he might? I like trump / Cruz. But if trump gets out I hope it s not until Jeb is knocked out. Only trump can get that done
Cruz has never highlighted the American victims of illegal alien crimes. Trump has.
Trump is smart enough to know talent when he sees it. I suspect is not one of those people afraid to hire someone smarter than himself.
And I hope that if Cruz gets out, it is not until Jeb is knocked out.
Source?
Trump is not.
Trump is for an over-and-back legalization amnesty for ~19 million.
Trump wants to have legal immigration return to historical levels, i.e, 195,000 a year.
Source?
History shows that if you want any sort of conservative success at all, you find a former democrat who agrees with you.
I don’t think Cruz supporting a wall matters at all, because frankly, the problem is bigger than just a wall.
And beyond that, Cruz does not seem to be able to effectively sell his positions or himself to American voters.
So it really doesn’t matter what he supports, because it doesn’t appear that he’s going to be president.
Think you’re right.
Bears repeating...
Good post... I like both. I think Cruz is an honorable and humble guy. He is also one that really understands that the DC Cartel has to be taken down. I think Cruz surely would like to win but I think if Trump can take on the cartel he’d be okay with supporting Trump too to do the job. I think this why they are more or less working together.
That’s true,,can give you that. And does it really matter who starts it? Let’s finish it by getting along,,all of us.
Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration
What Mr. Cruz has tried to articulate in both word and deed is a middle ground. It got no support from Democrats in Washington, but it goes further than many on the far right want to go by offering leniency to undocumented immigrants here already: A path to legal status, but not to citizenship. A green card with no right to naturalization.
Immigration-reform legislation from the Senates so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.
Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.
The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight, he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.
Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. He said he was against naturalization because it rewarded lawbreakers and was unfair to legal immigrants. It also perpetuates illegal crossings, he added.
Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.
Trump is for an over-and-back legalization amnesty for ~19 million
No, he says he will allow the "good ones" to come back. He didn't put a number on it. He also said he would deport all criminal aliens and stop the practice of catch and release.
Source?
It is obvious you have not read Trump's detailed position paper on immigration. Here is the excerpt on the reduction of legal immigration.
Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.
I understand your point but is it hard for his followers, and I am one also, to follow his lead and try to get along with Trump? That’s what I’m talking about.
“I just cant get past this deep gut feeling that something isnt ringing true with him.”
It’s because he’s a righteous man and were conditioned to expect politicians to be less to be much less than that.
The writer is behind the times—Trump’s already had his first poll giving him 40% of the GOP primary vote.
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