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Ted Cruz Is the Only GOP Candidate Who Knows How to Handle Donald Trump
New York ^ | 8/26/15 | Marin Cogan

Posted on 08/28/2015 6:54:52 AM PDT by VinL

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To: kabar
Cruz has never said that he is for legalization nor has he ever voted on such a bill that is for legalization.

I just gave you an exact quote for him. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

The quote:

And of course in the quote Cruz doesn't say that he is for the work permit part of the bill.

I think the reading comprehension problem is yours.

101 posted on 08/28/2015 10:09:15 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Tucker39

If the writer of this article thinks playing up an ulterior motive by Cruz is going to drive a wedge between him and Trump, they’re idiots.

Trump is a BUSINESSMAN. In business there are always ulterior motives. So long as Cruz is upfront with him, Trump would respect Cruz even more by acting on a complex set of ulterior motives.


102 posted on 08/28/2015 10:12:50 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: kabar
Almost all of them have committed other crimes besides entering illegally. They have worked illegally, committed ID theft, lied on employment forms, evaded taxes, stolen or created SSNs, etc. Once they leave, they will find it hard to get back if we enforce our laws.

Sure, almost ALL of them have indeed worked here illegally and evaded taxes.

So why doesn't the "tough-talking" Trump also mention those people as not being the "good ones"?

He doesn't.

He certainly singles out the "rapists" and the "drug dealers" as not being the "good ones", which is great, but they are only a small minority of the 20 million illegals.

103 posted on 08/28/2015 10:28:48 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Give me a break. You can't be that dense. I gave you the link to the story. You failed to include the rest of the paragraph.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Ira Mehlman, a national spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which advocates increased border security and limited immigration, opposes expanding the pool of legal workers the way Mr. Cruz proposes. And citizenship or not, he added, legal status still means immigrants take resources from citizens already here.

And why would he offer an amendment to prevent a path to citizenship? If he did not want to legalize them at all, why offer the amendment?

Cruz Press release: Sen. Cruz Presents Measure to Strengthen, Improve Legal Immigration

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) today presented an amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration bill that would improve our nation’s legal immigration system by increasing high-skilled temporary worker visas, called H-1B visas, by 500 percent. The measure would effectively address the needs of our nation’s high-skilled workforce by helping meet the growing demand for workers in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. It will also make block grants available to states to promote STEM education efforts and increase domestic STEM professionals. The committee voted against the amendment 4 to 14 with every Democrat voting against it on a party-line vote.

Sen. Cruz’s amendment would:

Immediately increase the H-1B cap by 500 percent from 65,000 to 325,000.

To truly fix our broken immigration system and take into account our nation’s economic needs, we must put more emphasis on increasing employment-based immigration. There is a current shortage of qualified high-skilled workers in the U.S., with an estimated 230,000 advanced-degree STEM jobs going unfilled by 2018.

Additionally, more H-1B workers mean more jobs for American workers – according to a study by the American Enterprise Institute, for every additional 100 H-1B workers, 183 jobs are created for U.S. citizens.

Help retain the high-skilled workers that are trained in the U.S. by allowing “dual intent.”

This would allow foreign students at U.S. colleges and universities to enter the U.S. on a temporary H-1B visa if they intend to get a Green Card once they complete their studies.

Currently, about 300,000 students come to America annually to be educated, but are required to return home upon completing their education.

We don't have a shortage of STEM workers and we have 900,000 foreign students in this country. Cruz wants to drastically increase the number of green cards beyond the 1.1 million issued annually. A green card is a path to citizenship.

You are so in the tank for Cruz you can't even accept his position in his own words.

104 posted on 08/28/2015 10:33:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: FreeReign
He certainly singles out the "rapists" and the "drug dealers" as not being the "good ones", which is great, but they are only a small minority of the 20 million illegals.

There are an estimated 2 million criminal aliens. From Trump's plan:

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.

105 posted on 08/28/2015 10:42:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Give me a break. You can't be that dense. I gave you the link to the story. You failed to include the rest of the paragraph. “The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

I failed to cite the rest of the paragraph because the words in the rest of the paragraph ARE NOT the words of Ted Cruz and ARE the words OF THE NY TIMES.

Apparently, you need a break, dumbass.

106 posted on 08/28/2015 10:44:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kabar
We don't have a shortage of STEM workers and we have 900,000 foreign students in this country. Cruz wants to drastically increase the number of green cards beyond the 1.1 million issued annually. A green card is a path to citizenship. You are so in the tank for Cruz you can't even accept his position in his own words.

I posted to you earlier in the thread that I was AGAINST Ted Cruz's H-1B increases. Did you forget that or do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

So that makes me the one who has criticized both Trump and Cruz on immigration while it is you who can't come to criticize Trump on immigration.

Trump-bot.

107 posted on 08/28/2015 10:48:48 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kabar
There are an estimated 2 million criminal aliens. From Trump's plan:

Okay, so we have ~~20 million minus 2 million.

That leaves 18 million.

108 posted on 08/28/2015 10:51:40 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kabar

Didn’t LBJ supposedly steal Texas for the ticket as well? We have proof that ‘Landslide’ Lyndon’s political career started with a stolen election, so it certainly wouldn’t have been past him. Would the electoral votes from LBJ’s TX plus those from Mayor Daley’s IL have been enough to turn the election?


109 posted on 08/28/2015 11:17:47 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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To: FreeReign

I did if you read my posts. I said he undermining his own position paper with his off the cuff remarks.


110 posted on 08/28/2015 11:23:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: FreeReign

That leaves 18 million who have violated many of our laws. How they can be readmitted “expeditiously” when there are over 4 million ahead of them waiting in line remains to be seen. Someone should ask Trump how he proposes to do that. As I said, he should stick to his position plan.


111 posted on 08/28/2015 11:25:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Yes, there were a number of states that were very close.


112 posted on 08/28/2015 11:26:22 AM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL

And if Trump does not flame out and wins the nomination and the Presidency Cruz will end up with a sweet job like VP, AG or Supreme Court Justice. When you are 44 years old its all good. :-)


113 posted on 08/28/2015 11:29:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: FreeReign
Apparently you need to stop denying reality and accept the fact that Cruz supports legalization, i.e., amnesty. If someone like Jorge Ramos ever interviewed him, you would see how his position can easily be revealed just like Palin had to admit she supported amnesty.

Anyone who is informed about the immigration issue knows how to detect the BS from the politicians who try to deceive people on the issue. Cruz supports amnesty. Get over it. So do every other one of the candidates except Santorum and Trump.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Ted Cruz vs. Donald Trump: Who's Stronger on Immigration?

114 posted on 08/28/2015 11:38:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: skeeter

I hope you know how brilliant what you just said is.

Thank you.


115 posted on 08/28/2015 11:40:58 AM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: captain_dave

Well, whatever these two decide to do, I’m up for it


116 posted on 08/28/2015 11:53:29 AM PDT by stanne
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To: kabar

For Cruz, you can use reliable metrics. I’ll bet that Cruz has the highest IQ among the bunch. That being said, you can’t put a number on other very important intangible qualities such as moral character, charisma, equanimity, honesty. Nonetheless, I believe that Cruz measures up in those categories as well.


117 posted on 08/28/2015 6:28:33 PM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: kabar

“JFK won the electoral vote 303 to 219. Winning IL would not have put Nixon on top. IL had 27 electoral votes.”

Good point. I focused on IL because I use to live there and saw the corruption firsthand. However, what I neglected to say (the big picture) is that the same thing happened in TX. Fraud also run rampant there. Together, IL and TX threw the election to Kennedy.


118 posted on 08/28/2015 6:35:19 PM PDT by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: grumpygresh

He has little executive experience. I am not a big fan of senators being in the WH.


119 posted on 08/28/2015 8:41:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: VinL

120 posted on 08/31/2015 2:13:01 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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