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New Republic Libs Romanticize Stalin
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | August 27, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/27/2015 1:51:15 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: Folks, I saw something that I have to comment on.

You know, this is outside the realm of the presidential race, but it is still right smack-dab in the middle of what we all care about, and that is the future of this country. You know and I know how frustrating it is to try to persuade liberals to abandon liberalism, or to put it another way, you know how hard it is to get liberals to switch to conservatism. One of the things that... I'll give you a couple examples of frustrating things to me.

For example, we had eight years in the 1980s of Ronald Reagan and Ronaldus Magnus and we had eight years of an economic boom. We had eight years of unemployment lowering. We had jobs created. We were just rolling. The Soviet Union was beaten back without firing a shot. It was one of the most incredible eight years in this nation's history, and yet people forgot it, or they were able to be convinced it wasn't real. "It was trickle-down.

"The only thing that happened during the eight years, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer." No, that's what's happening now, folks. Or how about this example? We have all these young people that just want Big Government, they want socialism, and yet you point out to them, "It's never worked anywhere. Show me where it's working! Show me Cuba. Show me the ChiComs. Show me anywhere. Show me Venezuela."

Show them anywhere where it doesn't work, and it doesn't shake them. They still think they can make it work. Very, very frustrating. When facts, when what you can see does not persuade them, what you can make them see? Socialism has never worked, at any time in the world. Marxism, Leninism, has never worked at any time in the world. Not as designed. I mean, it works for the people running it, but it does not work for the proletariat.

It does not work for the hoi polloi. It does not work for the people in the middle class, the lower class. They get shafted each and every time by it. And yet I ran across... You know, the New Republic was bought by one of these Facebook co-founders, and he and his husband are running this thing now. Chris Hughes, I think, is his name. The New Republic used to be on par with National Review.

It was the liberal equivalent of National Review. It was a liberal journal of opinion. It was highly regarded for its quality. Among intellectuals and people interested in opinion journalism, it was a high quality thing. It was really respected. It was looked on with great respect, even though it was filled with liberalism. They had their radicals in there. Michael Kinsley, people like that, used to edit it and write there.

But then it got sold and these new young Facebook guys came in and bought it. Well, the Facebook guy and his husband came in and bought it, and they have remade the whole thing in their own youthful image, and all of the great holdover writers and editors are practically gone now, and they've repopulated it with young people from current Millennial generation, and the magazine still has a leftist slant, a big leftist slant.

But it really has done what it can to destroy any linkage to its past. I still look at it. And The Economist. Because it was one of the magazines I always read as part of show prep in understanding liberalism within intellectually understanding it, to be able to explain to people why it wasn't working, wouldn't work, was bad. The latest edition of The New Republic has a story in it that is entitled: "What If Stalin Had Computers?"

So these are 35-, 40-year-old young people, and what are they doing? The piece is about maybe the Soviet Union was just a couple of generations early. Good grief, if the Soviet Union had our tech knowledge and wizardry, and if the Soviet Union had computers, then the command-and-control economy they were trying could have actually worked!

So here you have young people... We talk about the difficulty in persuading people to give up the romanticism of socialism, and here come this new crop of young people romantically looking at socialism. It always attracts them. Never mind it's never worked. It always attracts a group of people that think they are the ones that can finally do it, pull off a giant command-and-control not just economy, but entire culture.

They believe with incredible vanity that a select few elites can actually create an entire nation and society and culture that is better than anything any free market can create, because they are good people and the free market has bad people in it and cheats. Yeah, scam artists. But they, the good people with their command-and-control techniques, can make sure that the bad people are dealt with and identified and gotten rid of.

And what obviously happens is that the scams and the crooks and so forth end up running the country under socialism. But the point here is, Josef Stalin was a mass murderer. Every Soviet leader, up to Mikhail Gorbachev, could lay claim to being a mass murder to one degree or another. And here come these young kids at the New Republic thinking (summarized), "Oh, my God! Oh, my God! What if? What if Stalin, what if Mao -- oh, my God, what if Gorbachev -- had just had the computers and us that we have today!

"Can you imagine with the data collection and the data mining and the algorithms what beautiful results we could create for people?" So it finally cemented something I know, and that is all of this liberalism, most of it -- all of this dreaming and fantasies -- is all rooted in emotion. There isn't a single element of intellectual application to it.

When you have evidence, thousands of years of evidence all over the place including countries you can look at today and see incontrovertibly it doesn't work, and yet you romanticize about making it work? Every generation seems to have in it these romanticized young people who think they are the ones finally who will have success. "The Soviet Union, they didn't work because didn't have enough money.

"They weren't able stick it out long enough because evils of Reagan. Gorbachev? They tried to assassinate him. But if Gorbachev would have just had 10 more years and our skills at data mining, oh, my God! What a great place it could have been." So it has affirmed for me, folks, that changing these people's minds is not possible because all of this isn't in their heads. This is all emotion.

This fascination with all of this socialism and the fairness and the equality and the abundance, it's all dreams. It's what the environmental movement is. You know, you can pull your hair out trying to tell these people, "Do you realize there isn't any evidence for what you believe?" "What do you mean, no evidence?" "There isn't. It's just computer models!" Just like these hurricane models out there that change every six hours. There's no evidence of global warming. No evidence of man-made. There isn't any.

"Well, but we have the models!"

They want to believe it, they want to believe they can fix it, they want to believe they can. It's all emotion. And skulls full of mush. I mean, it helps to have a skull full of mush combined with this emotion in order to make it stick. That's all. I saw this story, "What if Stalin Had Computers?" and I said, "To hell with it. You know, what am I wasting my time trying to change their minds with facts and intellect for? It's not the way to go about it."

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RUSH: Now, let me tell you what would happen, ladies and gentlemen, if Stalin had computers. You know what would happen if Stalin had computers? Stalin would use those computers to track every citizen. He would use those computers to make sure every citizen was following orders and behaving -- and if they weren't, they would end up in his gulag. If Joseph Stalin or any... All you have to do is look at China. If you want to find out what Stalin would have done if he had computers, check the ChiComs.

Check the political prisoner jails in China. Check people who engage in religion that the state disapproves of in China. Check and see what happens to 'em. This is why this is, to me, so absurd. What if...? The assumption that Stalin was a good guy. A mass murderer! The assumption that Stalin is a good guy, and, "My God, if he would have just had us and our brilliant data sets and our data mining capabilities and our computers! Oh, my God, Stalin could have been wonderful."

Stalin was a criminal. Stanley was a deadly, mass-murdering thug and here you have... That is known, that has been demonstrated, that could have been taught to these kids. I say "kids;" they're in their thirties. It's known what Joseph Stalin did. I don't care about the New York Times and their Duranty guy getting a Pulitzer for ignoring the murders. I mean, it's 17 million people minimum that he wiped out, but yet they romanticize him, and they think, "Oh, my God!"

Because, see, they think they're good people, wonderful people, and if they could just make sure Stalin had what they had, if Stalin had them, then, oh! The beauty is in their mind that command-and-control, a few elites, a few really smarter than everybody else elites can create a freer, richer, more productive nation than people exerting their own liberty and free will. And that's the problem.

So I say, "How do you persuade these people?" (chuckles)

Obviously going after them in a typical, mental series of exercises to persuade 'em isn't gonna work 'cause there's nothing mental about that we're doing. They're not... If they really believe this stuff, they're stupid; they're not bright! So it's all emotion. It is a triumph of emotion over common sense that makes them believe that if these murdering-thug dictators only had them and their computer technique and ability and high-tech, advanced data mining and whatever algorithms, you name it, "Think of the good that could be done! Think of the magic that could have been done!"

It's dangerous as it can be, especially when the evidence to the contrary is within their eyesight. They don't even have to study history. It's within their eyesight to see that it doesn't work. Give Castro computers and see what he does with them. He wouldn't know the first thing to do with one. But if he did, if he knew what they were capable of, do you think Castro would use his computers to further enslave people, to further track people, to further punish people?

Damn right he would, exactly as the ChiComs do, because that's the kind of people they are and were.


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1 posted on 08/27/2015 1:51:15 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Liberals love murderous social change dictators. They only wish they could do such things to those who may hold opposing opinions. It’s an envy thing.


2 posted on 08/27/2015 1:53:28 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Kaslin

Holy smokes! These young pinkos WANT to be slaves.

Churchill warned that “...if we fail, then the whole world...will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.”

These kids think it will be just grand.


3 posted on 08/27/2015 1:58:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Kaslin

Forget Stalin, imagine what Hitler could have done with computers! For that matter imagine what Hillary could do with computers...oh, wait, we don’t have to imagine that last one, we already know!


4 posted on 08/27/2015 2:01:41 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: BenLurkin
Holy smokes! These young pinkos WANT to be slaves.

No, they want us to be their slaves...

Remember, they are libtards and they alway assume they are smarter, more nuanced, more sophisticated and fit to rule over us mere serfs...

5 posted on 08/27/2015 2:05:14 PM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: blackdog

You got that right, they sure adore adore them


6 posted on 08/27/2015 2:08:59 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Why are Freepers trashing Uncle Joe? /s


7 posted on 08/27/2015 2:10:09 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Kaslin
What if Stalin, what if Mao -- oh, my God, what if Gorbachev -- had just had the computers and us that we have today!

This is actually a very revealing statement and frightening. The progressives are simply betraying their true inner thoughts and intent. If history's "progressive" leaders of their day had computers and the internet, their destruction of any resistance, thought and deed, would be swift and precise. Hence, there could never be a resistance.
8 posted on 08/27/2015 2:16:37 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals worship dictators because that’s who they are deep inside and that’s who they want to be.


9 posted on 08/27/2015 2:51:03 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"It's not the guy who gets the most votes that wins, it's the spy network gathering the URL's of internet users encouraging acting against the state."

-Joseph Stalin, if he were alive in 2015.

10 posted on 08/27/2015 2:53:02 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
They will want to "Tattoo You", before too long.

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ROLLING STONES SLAVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTwnExGWsAY

11 posted on 08/27/2015 3:00:54 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Kaslin

A few comments:

1) You can’t fix stupid. That explains the love of people for all things Socialist or Communist, no matter how much you PROVE to them that it hasn’t worked and CAN’T work. You’d have far more success teaching astrophysics to a cockroach.

2) On the computer issue - GIGO is still operative, and always will be. Computers just make the garbage come out faster, and the “authoritative, objective” answers from a computer will tend to disengage any tiny bit of logical analysis that most people can muster regarding whether the results are actually correct (and never mind that the programming and data that go in are NOT objective). Oh, and with ANYONE, if the computer results agree with their particular world view, NOTHING will dissuade them of the correctness of the computer’s results.

3) More important than the other 2 issues is the fact that most “liberals” of today are, in reality, totalitarians by temperament. Understand that the totalitarian mindset DEMANDS that you agree with its proponents. They are smarter and better intentioned than you - you (and me, and everyone who is not them), who are both stupid and evil. They not only want to win (i.e. dictate the results on any particular issue), they want you to be punished for daring to even THINK differently. Maybe, maybe if you publicly repent and identify yourself to the world as being stupid and evil, you will avoid too much punishment. THIS is why they admire Stalin and Mao, because in their eyes these worst of monsters were incredibly successful.

These people are the evil ones, and they will never stop as long as there is breath in their bodies. They are political versions of the Terminator. Understand and NEVER FORGET what they are, and you will be much better off. Teach this to your children, grandchildren, friends, etc.


12 posted on 08/27/2015 3:50:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: blackdog

Knock at door - “This is ThinkPol! Open the door...we have a warrant”


13 posted on 08/27/2015 4:02:41 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Kaslin
Computers or not, socialism cannot work. For proof dating back to the 1920s, read Ludwig von Mises' book HUMAN ACTION. It's one of the hardest, but most rewarding, books I've ever read. Be prepared for some real intellectual stimulation.
14 posted on 08/27/2015 5:21:22 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: Kaslin

The true “Flat Earthers” there is no way to say that Marxism is anything but a horrible form of government
For the average person. But the Leftist still have their fingers in their ears going “na na na”. They are idiots.


15 posted on 08/27/2015 5:36:22 PM PDT by Federal46
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