Posted on 08/26/2015 5:32:00 AM PDT by wagglebee
LOS ANGELES, CA, August 25, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – The GOP's leading presidential candidate said that he has been to a gay "wedding" and that conservatives should accept the Supreme Court's redefinition of marriage.
In a wide-ranging interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Donald Trump was asked whether the issue of marriage's redefinition is "a dead issue for the GOP at this point."
"Some people have hopes of passing amendments [to the U.S. Constitution]," said Trump, "but it's not going to happen. Congress can't pass simple things, let alone that. So anybody that's making that an issue is doing it for political reasons. The Supreme Court ruled on it."
In June, Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper that he had evolved on the issue of marriage, and supports "traditional marriage." At the time, he was pressed by Tapper on whether Trump's three marriages undermined his position.
"They have a very good point," said Trump. "I have a great marriage. I have a great wife now. And I – my two wives were very good. And I don't blame them. But I was working, maybe like you, 22 hours a day."
"I blame myself because my business was so powerful for me. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing," he said.
Trump told the Reporter that he had been to the gay "wedding" of Broadway theater owner Jordan Roth.
Way to paint with a broad brush and attempt a personal attack in one stroke.
<<<<<< Because he has said that he supports traditional marriage. I heard it with my own ears.
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You keep repeating this line “I heard it with my own ears.”
Like that means a damn thing. Tell me. How do your ears react, and whatever do they do when - a day later - they hear Trump say and do the OPPOSITE of what he said the day before?
I don’t disagree with that per se - but my point has been all along that he has liberal reflexes built up over 65 years and they’re not gone. It is the liberal reflex to say “it’s the law of the land” - so forget it. It was a liberal reflex coming through.
Words mean things. Phraseology is a pretty good indicator. Like his Planned Parenthood funding gaffe - a liberal reflex coming out. Ignore at your own peril.
Post53. I agree.
That I agree with, but his "conversion" on social conservatism seems a little too well-timed. However, if he were to have a conservative VP like Cruz whose advice he heeded on these matters it would help.
What they see has some rough edges, and there’s a trust factor involving some of his conversions, but how is that different than other candidates like Romney, McCain, Dole, etc., over the years.
The problem with that is that conservatives never actually wanted Romney, McCain Dole or the Bushes.
Moreover, the GOP has failed. They have lied. They have cowered, manipulated, capitulated, and betrayed. Why in the world would any sane person support them again if there’s a decent alternative?
I couldn't agree more. Since Reagan left office the GOP has gone out of their way to abolish conservatism and I will NEVER AGAIN vote for a politician simply because of the letter after their name.
In a reality based world, Cruz did not have the firepower to overcome the Bush/media coalition. Trump does. And if Cruz is the VP, then Cruz becomes the heir apparent.
Is it possible that we're reaching the wrong conclusion on the Trump/Cruz meetings?
Whether you love Trump or hate him, EVERYONE agrees that he has a huge ego and his ego is largely tied to stuff he owns with his name on it. Is he really prepared to give all of this up and put his wealth in a blind trust? Ross Perot had sold EDS nearly a decade before he ran, Perot Systems was brand new and he wouldn't have minded giving it up and most of his money was in stocks anyway. Donald Trump has an emotional attachment to his business that will not be easy to give up, even for the White House.
Is it possible that Trump is preparing to back Cruz with his full support?
1. America has a manual labor shortage that simply didn't exist four decades ago. It's not that the illegals are doing the jobs that Americans won't do, it's that they're doing the jobs that there aren't enough Americans to do. Talk to the owner of any construction company, there are many jobs (jobs that pay pretty well) that it is impossible to hire Americans for. Go back in history, the problems with illegal aliens began roughly a decade after Roe v. Wade and two decades after the Sexual Revolution began. There was a demand for labor and the illegals came and met the demand.
I want to thank you for one of the all time great posts on FR that I've seen. Not only do you hit on a reality so many talk show hosts and Freepers want to deny (talk to people who actually HIRE for a living.....) a reality that Ive been flamed for on this site for merely pointing it out - but you opened my eyes to the tie between abortion and the labor shortage. I've understood the abortion population issue and housing, for example, but never connected these dots. Thank you for that. What an amazing perspective. Our illegal situation is nothing but the product of supply and demand - PLUS - a porous border for 70 years - AND made worse by abortion depleted supply.
“Be careful - you will get flamed as a RINO or worse by the Trumpkins...”
Haha, “Trumpkins” is perfect. I think I will steal it!
Many here have posted concrete examples of this cult worship to you, which you label as "personal attacks". Good grief. Man up.
And you've got the "New FR" completely backwards. It is: If you don’t mindlessly love Donald Trump, you’re a troll ...
And, only a troll would think all of this is funny.
And for the record, I don't hate Donald Trump. I would pick him everyday over the gOpee candidates Jeb/Kasich/Christie/Paul. But there are better ones than he for a conservative.
he’s such a fighter, and yet he’s thrown in the towel on this one.
My beef is not with Trump - it’s with Trump bot like responses.
“The problem with Trump is that he has changed positions over the last 2 decades..”
Most of his changes were much more recent than that. In fact, some key changes were in the last couple of months! Regardless of his blathering about some issues, he gives very clear insights that his true core hasn’t changed a bit. He is simply saying what people “want” to hear.
However, if you truly listen to him, then it becomes clear that he has not had a change in his core beliefs. Likely he has never actually had any core beliefs. His morality and core changes with the wind and blows wherever the bags of money are stored.
I will give a very clear example, not long ago (2007/8/9) time, he suggested a “one time wealth tax of 14%.” Now, what conservative would advocate outright theft from people that have been prudent and successfully have been able to build wealth? So, recently he clarified that he was no longer for it...why? Because the debt is just to big for a wealth tax to work.
Not a change in heart because it is morally wrong, or because it is theft or because it is simply against liberty, nope, the debt has grown out of control so it won’t work now....
This is a man with no Conservative fortitude. He is chaff that will blow with the political winds.
Some of what he says is good and I agree with, but that is because he knows he has to appeal to conservatives/Republicans right now. He could be a totally different guy if he gets the nomination. You really can't know because the man is not grounded in conservative ideology.
I agree with every word, and would only add as a caveat that in my book, populism IS liberalism. Protectionism, like all liberalism, does the opposite of what it promises. Those who support it must resort to personal attacks. Huckabee, Santorum, Pat Buchanan, Trump - all are guilty of protectionist populist liberalism. Apparently conservatives on FR no longer believe in Hayek, Friedman, Reagan, Sowell, Williams. Who knew?
Be careful with any attempt to validate one’s opinion with polls...obama won twice with much more support than Trump has.
Good grief, does a candidate have to take up his sword for every single conservative issue to get elected? If Trump closes the border, gets illegals out, rebuilds the military, takes care of the veterans, and goes after ISIS, I’ll settle.
Haha, “Trumpkins” is perfect. I think I will steal it!
After all being victimized by Trump supporters always requires a little "pre game strategy" :)
I've been in construction management for twenty years, it is IMPOSSIBLE to hire non-Hispanics for certain positions. I know a guy who has owned a drywall company for over forty years, he didn't know a word of Spanish when he started out and now he's fluent in it.
Our illegal situation is nothing but the product of supply and demand - PLUS - a porous border for 70 years - AND made worse by abortion depleted supply.
The border has always been porous, but the flow didn't really start until the 1980s. And, it's worth noting that the flow slowed considerably during the recession - they will only come of there are jobs to be had.
So, I must swallow the kool-aid being offered to drones or I am being “victimized.” Thanks for your input noob!
It's currently a cultural thing. The culture has shifted to the point where it's accepted, or at least we don't have a big enough percentage of people willing to declare it unacceptable. So the gays win on this, for now.
The big cultural/legal issue moving forward may be the concept of "public accommodation". As long as we have the concept of "public accommodation", where anybody doing business has to accept as customers anybody who comes to them, then we will have Christians being driven out of business over their refusal to associate with immorality. The only solution is to abolish the legal concept of "public accommodation", and return to business owners the right to deal with, and NOT deal with, whomever they choose, for whatever reasons they choose.
And you are clearly ignorant of the fact the 14th has been challenged in the past and has stood up. Mark Levin, great as he is, isn’t on a bench of any federal court, now is he?
Say what you want, but when you start with the wrong facts, you end up with the wrong conclusion.
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Sorry. I know this is my second response to post 100, but how are my facts wrong when all I did was cut/paste quotes?
Besides, I see you are a chaplain and I have a question for you.
Would YOU conduct a same sex wedding? Would you attend one?
As you know, conservatives would not attend, since their presence would give acknowledgement to the sanctity of such an abomination.
So. You go right ahead and insist that Trump supports traditional marriages - when by his own actions he does not.
And I’ll assume Chaplain zxins would CONDUCT such a same sex marriage.
Given how often conservatives have been attacked by people who have been posing as conservatives for decades, is it not reasonable to be worried over someone whose conservatism supposedly took root in the last couple of years?
I can understand a teen being fooled by Obama. I cannot understand how someone Trump’s age could have expected Obama to be a great President in 2009 - just 6 years ago! I’ve been burned by people who had a good track record in the House, and who ran as “Tea Party” conservatives - think Jeff McFlake, the slimeball from my home state of Arizona.
How am I supposed to trust someone whose conservative views started just a few years ago, and with ZERO track record?
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