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We’ve ignored a reason for homicides of blacks: Look at the enemy within.
Washington Post ^ | 8/25/15 | Courtland Milloy

Posted on 08/25/2015 6:52:24 PM PDT by markomalley

When it comes to the causes of homicide among black people, there’s something a lot of black people are saying among themselves: It’s not all due to institutional racism. Few dare say it publicly, lest some animus-filled, right-wing conservatives hail you as their kind of black.

But the subject must be broached, especially now that homicides are spiking like mad in urban areas throughout the nation. If racist cops are part of an institutional threat to black people, there are also black men and women dying at the hands of people who look like them. It is the enemy within. Call out one, you have to call out the other.

In the District, there have been more than 100 homicides this year — a 30 percent increase from this point last year.

“People want to know why there has not been a clear answer given, and that’s not to say that there is an easy answer,” D.C. Council Chairman Phil Mendelson (D) told The Washington Post last week. “But first we were told by the mayor that it might be synthetic drugs or domestic violence, then it was illegal guns. . . . Layer over that changing explanations, and it gives people cause for real concern.”

People want a clear answer for what’s causing the homicides? It’s not illegal guns. It’s not the synthetic drug K2. It’s not “domestic” violence. It’s killers causing the killing — and a disproportionate number of those doing the killing are young black men between 18 and 29. They are deadly, reckless and irresponsible. They hide in our midst, growing ever more confident that you can get away with murder — especially when the victim is black.

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To: markomalley

“young black men between 18 and 29. They are deadly, reckless and irresponsible. They hide in our midst, growing ever more confident that you can get away with murder — especially when the victim is black.”

Now that you have recognized the true cause of this horrible mass murder problem, what are you going to do about it?


21 posted on 08/25/2015 9:43:51 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: markomalley
She desperately needs people who can win the trust of the troublemakers where they live and send them a message in terms they can understand: Black people cannot win the war on racism when black people are dying at the hands of other black people.

Black people cannot win the war on racism [i.e., white people] given the FBI statistics about white homicides at the hands of black people -- whites outnumber blacks by at least six to one.

Expanded Homicide Data
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of
Stats
Race of
Victims

Total
White
Offenders
Black
Offenders
Unknown
& other
2013
White
3,005
2,509
409
87
Black
2,491
189
2,245
57
2012
White
3,128
2,614
431
83
Black
2,648
193
2,412
43
2011
White
3,172
2,630
448
94
Black
2,695
193
2,447
55
2010
White
3,327
2,777
447
103
Black
2,720
218
2,459
43
2009
White
3,518
2,963
454
101
Black
2,867
209
2,604
54
2008
White
3,643
3,036
504
103
Black
3,024
230
2,722
72
2007
White
3,587
2,918
566
103
Black
3,221
245
2,905
71
2006
White
3,709
3,026
573
110
Black
3,303
208
3,034
61
2005
White
3,785
3,150
516
119
Black
3,289
230
2,984
75
2004
White
3,727
3,123
522
85
Black
3,067
228
2,784
55
1995
White
4,954
4,124
699
131
Black
4,764
281
4,422
61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6—“Murder, Race, Ethnicity, and Sex of Victim by Race and Sex of Offender, 2013 [Single victim/single offender]”

Here's 2013 Click on: Expanded Homicide Data Table 6—“Murder, Race, Ethnicity, and Sex of Victim by Race and Sex of Offender, 2013 [Single victim/single offender]”

Here's 2012

Here's 2011

Here's 2010

Here's 2009

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

Here's 2006

Here's 2005

It is long past the time when facts should be made public to expose the lies and misrepresentations of the Obama-Holder demagogues and the race-grievance industry.The Obama-Holder demagogues, the race-grievance industry, and most employees of the MSM have made this a racial issue. So let's see..

So adding up the blacks killed by whites (Col 1) and whites killed by blacks(col 2). Surprise.

col 1 Col 2
189 409
193 431
193 448
218 447
209 454
230 504
245 566
208 573
230 516
228 522
281 699
2424 5569

Whites outnumber blacks by at least six-to-one.

22 posted on 08/25/2015 9:55:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: markomalley

After the mass murder by a white man at the Black church in Charleston SC, the first thing I wondered about was how many other Black church members had been murdered by Black persons since the church opened 200 years ago.

That, of course, is not a subject that will be investigated by the MSM.


23 posted on 08/25/2015 10:10:38 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I think your numbers must come from some kind of subset of total homicides.

There were 14,200 total murders in the USA in 2013.

About 10,000 of those murders were by firearms, so it can’t be that, because that doesn’t match your data, either.

Also, about 30%-35% of USA murders do not result in an arrest, so the “Unknown & Other” column doesn’t make sense, either.


24 posted on 08/25/2015 10:39:32 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: muir_redwoods
somewhere in the mix genetics plays a part.....the bright people in this country are not producing children while the not so bright are breeding like rabbits....

the demographics alone will kill us....

it goes for whites too.....

25 posted on 08/25/2015 10:44:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: zeestephen
Yes a subset.. I included links to the FBI sources. The explanations are there for all who trouble themselves to view. For example..

A visit to one of the FBI Table Six data reveals the totals are representative of those agencies that provide race and ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide the data.

So the FBI freely admits the data for FBI Table Six are a subset and the FBI provides details about the data that are available to the FBI.. here is copy of information available from the FBI at the link I provided for 2013. All the other links to FBI data for the respective years show similar information.

[2013] Overview


26 posted on 08/26/2015 4:31:51 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Not limited to the black community.

We’ll take care of everything for you.

Why work?

"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." Stapp's law

27 posted on 08/26/2015 6:25:37 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Well, I know, but at the time the programs were instituted, black families were positioned to fall more frequently into this spiral of bribes.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT CHARITY. BUT WELFARE PROGRAMS AREN’T CHARITY. THEY ARE A WORLDLY DISTORTION OF IT. CHARITY SAYS “WE LOVE YOU.” WELFARE SAYS “WE OWE YOU.”


28 posted on 08/26/2015 8:00:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: markomalley
When it comes to the causes of homicide among black people, there’s something a lot of black people are saying among themselves: It’s not all due to institutional racism. Few dare say it publicly, lest some animus-filled, right-wing conservatives hail you as their kind of black.

And those Black churches in Harlem with signs out front complaining about sodomites moving in are what . . . love-filled left wing liberals???

29 posted on 08/26/2015 8:04:20 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I'm not questioning the data, just the confusing way you presented it.

The FBI publishes other data tables on murder-by-race that are much more helpful, and much easier to understand (I'll find one for you this afternoon when I have more time).

For instance, “homicides,” used in your data, include things like self-defense, and justified police shootings, and vehicular manslaughter, which disguise the full extent of Black-on-white violence.

Also, the FBI counts Hispanic murderers as “white.” Thus, when a Hispanic gang banger murders a Black gang banger in a drug deal, the FBI counts that as a “white” person murdering a Black person, which makes the white offender data look worse than it really is.

Finally, your data are also distorted by the fact that many Black witnesses are unwilling to testify about Black-on-Black murders, which means a much higher percentage of Black murders have an offender of “unknown” race, even though the race is obviously Black in most cases.

30 posted on 08/26/2015 11:06:28 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
RE: I'm not questioning the data, just the confusing way you presented it.

You mean combining the several tables into one?

The exceptions vis-a-vis race, ethnicity, witnesses are explained at the source.

If you think I messed up here wait until you see this:

Federal crime statistics are a rebuttal to the race-grievance industry lies. It'll take a long time to sort out that mess. :)

If you do look at my thread you do have to hover the columns and headers to get descriptions and..

some additions I made using replies have more FBI and DoJ data.

31 posted on 08/26/2015 11:55:27 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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